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jrb78 |
Intermediate Fly Lines |
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I just wanted to get some opinions on line here. I've been flyfishing probably for about 15+ years and have never once used/purchased anything but a
floating line. I fish small mountain streams and sometimes up to medium size streams. I fish 99.9% nymphs and I've found that a floating line does quite
well with nymphing even in relatively deep water as long as enough split shot is used when necessary and keep a short line. Does anybody find any benefit to
an intermediate line in these types of situations. I'm thinking of purchasing and trying one out but I have some reservations about spending the money on
it. I've read where some say it's beneficial in situations where water depth is more than 3 feet which I definitely do fish but I've done so
successfully with a floating line. I've also read where some say it's better for stillwater. I'd really appreciate opinions on application and
the pros and cons to fishing them in the circumstances I've mentioned. Also, will the line become a hindrance in shallower than 3 foot depths? I'm
looking at a 3 or 4 weight intermediate to give you an idea of the line sizes that I use as well.
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Golfswithwolves.clarksclassicfl... |
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I'd not bother with a sinking line of any type if you are already able to reach the depths you seek with your present setup. If I recall correctly, the
Intermediate lines are of most use in larger bodies of non-flowing water, where their slow sinking rates allow the line to be just underneath the wind and
waves and therefore not moved around a lot. If you want to reach greater depths than you do at present, faster sink rate lines or sink tip lines would be of
more use to you than an Intermediate line.
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Mojorizing |
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Intermediate lines are great for stillwater. I use intermediate when fishing lakes and reservoirs. Close in to
shoreline with weed structure. Never gave intermediate a thought for streams. Not a fast enough sink rate. Moving water, you might want to think about a sink
tip. Teeney comes to mind. I think Bulldog fishes a lot of Teeny lines along with others on the board. Maybe they'll chime in.
"If opera is entertainment, then falling off a roof is transportation!"
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corlay |
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This Spring,
I spliced a 8'6" length of tip taper taken from a WF6I intermediate line onto a H+H DTF6 line, after I removed the same length from the tip taper of that line. I wanted to see if it gave me any advantage fishing wet flies in trout streams, mostly for situations where a fast run terminates into a deep pool; hoping it would get my flies down a little better. I feel that it did work, and may have resulted in a few more trout. Although, I also feel that it is probably not needed, really. If you fish a floating line wet with wets or nymphs long enough, that tip tends to sink at about the same rate, anyway. Officially, I do believe that golfswithwolves answer is correct, and is what Intermediate lines were originally designed for.
"From my observations I think that most of us spend too much time worrying about our tackle and too little time
learning the intimate characteristics of the fish and streams we fish most."
- Ray Bergman
Trout, New York: Knopf 1938 |
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majicwrench |
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I use 7wt and 8wt Intermediate lines a lot, like has been said, mostly in still water, but also in some of the big rivers I fish, when swinging buggers and the
like. Intermediate line gets under all that commotion at the top, and seems to maintain a straight line connection tween me and the fly better than a floating
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Love Orvis burnt orange Int line, pretty inexpensive too. For small cricks I don't think you would see any advantage, but the fun of this game is getting new toys and seeing what they will do! Keith |
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In almost all stream situations, an intermediate is likely to be a disadvantage, not an advantage. On the drift you won't gain much depth with it and on
the swing it will come almost to the surface. A big disadvantage is in mending where an intermediate doesn't work well once it begins to sink. Also
pickups, except at shorter distances are mure difficult. Where an intermediate shines is in lakes and the best ones are the clear type that are great with
spooky fish. If you want to experiment with intermediate or sinking lines, I'd try a polyleader by Airflo or Rio. They come in different lengths and many
densities and are much less costly than a full line.
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whrlpool |
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Use intermediate and sink/tip lines so you can get rid of the split shot and be fly-fishing again. I use them sometime along the way in almost any long day of
fishing on rivers or streams. Depending on brand, all sink gradually, some slightly faster than others. One advantage is their versatility when prospecting.
They sink slow enough to give a good float with a dry, fast enough to get a nymph, streamer, or wet fly down just a bit. You augment this capability by the
position of the cast and the planned drift or swing. With a short leader and a long drift, they take the fly to the depth and place the current wants it to go,
which is also the place the fish will be. You can also grease the tip or leader butt to keep a fly up a touch longer. They cast like a sinking line--that is,
being slightly thinner in diameter they shoot well--but they can fish like a floating line. Very comfortable to fish in many situations. Absolutely they are
harder to mend than a floater, and take a little more effort to pick up for the next cast, although not all the work of a full sinker. They cast so accurrately
and help control the fly so well, though, that you'll be catching fish, not just chucking and ducking. When fish are feeding subsurface--from the film to 3
or 4 feet, an intermmediate offers tremendous control of the fly, it's thin diameter being less affected by the surface current, which it gradually cuts
through to drift at the current pace (which is slower) of the flow underneath. It swims the fly in a way that is slightly different than a floating or sink tip
line would. Sometimes this capability is exactly the difference in catching fish or not--on another day, the same fly in the same place will fish better off a
floater or sink tip. I wouldn't go to any river or stream without an intermmediate line for possible use depending on conditions. If you're still not
convinced, buy another floater of low-riding type. Northern (Aqua-Nova) makes these in .99 specific gravity, a great all around floating line, whose tip will
go to slow-sinking pretty quick if it's not dressed. Same for several other near neutral buoyancy lines, the inexpensive Scientific Angers Air Cel being
another. Some of these will do in a pinch what an intermmediate will do slightly better. Or use an old floating line whose first twenty feet are battered and
cracked from chunking split shot on sloppy leaders. There is a useless line until you let it go down gradually; through wear and abuse it has become what it
could have been to begin with, an intermmediate. Ironically, I've heard people complain that the tip of their floating line sinks slightly whether a new or
worn line, but this is often an advantage. You can get good intermmediate lines in WF or DT, the latter offering even better control in casting and
presentation, for less than $25--less than round trip gasoline for one fishing trip. Kinnelle budget fly lines on Ebay usually has a good selection. You can
dangle a fly off a pole with split shot hung off an intermmediate line also if you still want to fish that way.
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wb4tjh |
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I love intermediate lines, especially a 6 and 8 weight. They cut thru wind like a bullet and you can get a lot of distance with them. I fish one quite a bit
here in salt water because the wind is almost always blowing and they don't blow around on the surface like a floating line. I always have one in my
fishing bag.
Bill Anderson, Sarsota, Fl. "Bamboo is the Benchmark in flyrods". |
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