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 ratfacedmcdougal |
your favorite bug dope? |
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Posts: 299 (06/07/09 05:51:41) |
This year in the North Country we seem to be having a banner year for mosquitoes. I'm a firm believer in DEET. I use Ben's 100 percent DEET. It'll
probably kill me, but it's better than ending up in the nut house from the Black Flies, mosquitoes and midges. My coon hound on the other hand is going
nuts herself. Any good non-tox bug dopes for dogs out there? Might even use it myself on those light bug days.
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Posts: 3454 (06/07/09 06:51:27)
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RFMcD...my first thought was a stinky cigar...but that might be a tough trick to teach a pup. HA...
Though we don't have black flies, FRONTLINE is what I use on K-9 "Ice" and it seems to keep everything away. This is a monthly application and I believe you can double it up during the summer months. Now this is advertised for fleas and ticks but it seems to work on everything else as well. |
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Master Guide
Posts: 298 (06/09/09 20:29:07) |
ratfacedmcdougal..Thanx for the topic as I have always wanted a 'go-to' for insect repelant that wasn't tox but efective. The mosquito deal is what
I don't like because most stuff I use only will last for an hour or so and seems like it wears off. Here in the hill country of Texas tics that may carry
Lime disease scare me the most and the Deet is the solution. But them damm sceeters is a problem..............Hope others will chime in and give a good review.
I don't have dogs so I'm selfish for myself on this issue..............Ray..............
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Posts: 208 (06/10/09 10:25:31) |
The only thing that seems to work for me is good ol' Muskol, but I'm told that its high DEET content can just incinerate your liver. Considering the
abuses the poor old thing has already suffered I'm reluctant to continue using the stuff. Out here the skeets can infect you with what's called West
Nile Disease, which is no fun at all. So, it's either liver destruction or possible meningitis. Delightful.
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Master Guide
Posts: 592 (06/10/09 13:55:51) |
I have had really good luck using Sevin dust for ticks on dogs and my own clothing. Put it in an old gym sock and dust your boots and cuffs with it. Also dust
your dog in the same manner.
As far as mosquitos go.....I have not found anything that works like DEET (unfortunately). The Airline I work for has started flying extensively into Africa (already have a fly fishing trip lined up with a fly shop from Johannesburg), so mostquito repellent has become a recent priority for me. After getting my Yellow Fever shot and starting my Hepatitis shot series, I don't want to be done in by malaria and a damn little bug. |
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Master Guide
Posts: 310 (06/10/09 16:28:19) |
Up here in Southeast AK, nothing seems to work on our gnats and no see ums when the wind is not blowing except a bug net and finger mitts These are much more effective than chemicals, with no harm to fly lines, people, birds, fish and their food webs. The bug net interferes with vision, unless you glue it to a pair of goggles or sunglasses then cut the bug net out from the lens areas, which I did. So now there is no drawback at all with the bug net. Highly recommended! Why would anyone want to use toxic chemicals when there is an effective mechanical measure? -Vinnie in Juneau |
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Master Guide
Posts: 258 (06/11/09 00:34:58) |
I absolutely HATE bug dope and will do most anything I can to
avoid putting it on! Living in Minnesota where the Mosquito is the state bird that can be problematic. Smoking worked pretty well but since I gave it up 18
years ago I've been in quite a fix, until I came across the MOSQUITO ANNOYER by William Joseph. http://www.williamjoseph.net/accessories.php (In the box on the left hand side select "Mosquito
Annoyer" The old WJ website had a MUCH more colorful description of the unit and how and why it works).
Its a little solar powered device that you clip to your shirt, it emits a high faint pitched sound that is supposed to sound like a frisky male Mosquito. Since only pregant female Mosquitos bite they avoid any males looking to mate and therefore avoid the Annoyer. Sounds a little hokey but I find that I get bit less with it on than with it off and to me the few bites I receive are far less objectionable than bug dope. I will say that I am fortunate in the fact that Mosquito bites have no adverse effect on me. I don't swell up or start itching so a few bites is no big deal. Now If I were going to be out in the wetlands of Alaska in the evening where I've heard swarms of Mosquitos will reduce a Bull Moose to a shriveled carcass in a matter of minutes I might opt for something more powerful than the Mosquito Annoyer, but from what I've heard it would probably need to have a roof and four walls! It would probably be possible to clip the annoyer to your dog's colar, but since dogs hearing is so much more sensitive than a human's it may drive your dog crazy! Good Luck!
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Posts: 135 (06/11/09 06:55:22) |
I take a yearly trip up to the AuSable in Northern Michigan where the skeeters can get pretty bad. My host always puts on the Deet but not only is it hostile
to the bugs and you, it will absolutely melt fly lines, waders or anything else that has a plastic base. I experimented one year and found that the 'Buzz
Off' series of clothing will work out of the box. I think it's made by Ex Officio but they've licensed the tech to a lot of other companies. My
stuff came from LL Bean. The Buff wear I recently reviewed on the Fly Fish Ohio site has versions with bug repellent in them too. The bugs literally hang in
the air like 6" from your face. I bought the shirt, hat and bandanna from Bean, as everything else was covered by waders. It works like the cats ass for
the first few washings but I ended up buying a can of Permethrin spray, from Bass Pro or Cabelas, to 'recharge' the shirt every hear. You really have
to follow the directions but it seems to work well. It will also charge clothing that has never had a permethrin treatment. The only thing I've had to do
was use a little something with deet on the tops of my hands. They stay away from everything else.
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Master Guide
Posts: 516 (06/11/09 09:04:00) |
The permethrin spray Jim recommended is a very common insecticide that can be found at a local gardening centers and it's safe to use on dogs, however it
is highly toxic to cats.
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Master Guide
Posts: 312 (06/11/09 11:54:27) |
The material safety data sheet for permethrin is online at http://www.cdms.net/ldat/mp7GD006.pdf .. "This product is extremely toxic to fish and aquatic invertebrates" "Avoid contact with skin, eyes, and clothing" -Vinnie in Juneau |
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Sport
Posts: 13 (06/11/09 22:01:40) |
Since I have to use both sunscreen and insect repellent, I've been happy with Bullfrog Mosquito Coast--it has both. In addition to a SPF 30 sunblock, the
product contains a DEET-free repellent that's designed to be applied to the skin. Many reviews of Mosquito Coast rate the repellent component more highly
than the sunblock. Here in the part of SoCal where I live, mosquitos are not a huge problem, but the threat of West Nile Virus makes it necessary to take precautions. This stuff seems to be highly effective. |
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Master Guide
Posts: 306 (06/16/09 02:54:37) |
The bug net interferes with vision, unless you glue it to a pair of goggles or sunglasses then cut the bug net out from the lens areas, which I did. So now
there is no drawback at all with the bug net. Highly recommended!
That is a brilliant idea.
"I can't not believe in a creator. The birds sing too beautifully and the trout are too speckled." John Martyn 1948-2009
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Sport
Posts: 8 (06/16/09 19:51:46) |
Fishing Colorado
"The rule is perfect: in all matters of
opinion our adversaries are insane."
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Sport
Posts: 78 (06/19/09 18:45:26) |
I fish on the Manistee in Michigan, and will be heading up soon for the Hex Hatch at night. The mosquitos are the size of small birds, the big brown striped
ones, and I rely on a Patagonia canvas shirt, my Mosquito Annoyer and citronella & mint based oils to do the job. I'll lite up a stogie when they form
a cloud around me, but I have been DEET free for several years now and okay. When those big brown trout are rising, you don't even notice them skeeters!
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Sport
Posts: 79 (06/19/09 18:52:12) |
...at first I thought the topic was fly floatants, so I'll throw in my 2 cents on this too. The makeup remover cream that is called Albolene that you can
buy in bulk at the pharmacy is as good or better than Gink and a whole lot cheaper. I still have several bottles of Orvis Superfloat which is great, but they
had to stop selling it a few years back because of the carbon tetrachloride I think. The powder called Frogs Fanny is really a great fly drier. If you
haven't tried it, buy some and you'll be glad you did.
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Sport
Posts: 7 (08/27/09 19:30:39) |
Avon Skin Sosoft Bath Oil
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