Everyone think about that and throw me your opinion.
Richard, It is great to here from you! How have you been?
Later Guys, Thom
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flynbird |
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If we do a Oct/Nov clave we have a ton of fishing at our disposal. Bulls, Steelhead, Browns, Brooks, Cutts and Rainbows. I would think about them in that order
with an emphasis on Bulls and Steelhead. That is a pretty epic time to be here. Bull Trout fishing can be banner in Feb/March but Steelhead would be a 4 hour
drive. We have a few good rivers that are open year round but are limited to fish to 18" and most would average 10-12", again that is Feb/March there
is better shots at BIG fish in Oct/Nov.
Everyone think about that and throw me your opinion. Richard, It is great to here from you! How have you been? Later Guys, Thom |
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flyfishing4goldentrout |
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Well for planning basis I would vote on fall, that way I hope we can get a little handle on fuel prices and airlines prices etc and get ourselves booked etc,
sounds like at least a two or three day clave for those that drive and perhaps a day or two more for those that fly in and out.
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Mountainshark |
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My vote is for 3 days in either October or November.
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flyfishing4goldentrout |
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Yea, three days of fishing, for those of us that are traveling, we will need to include travel time, and what works for that travel, but yes, I think thats a
pefect selection, time enough to make plans, get reservations and our tackle together.
Richard |
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flynbird |
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Ok let's call it a 4 day weekend Oct/Nov 2009! People can come and go as theie schedules lert them. Awesome! I will start posting links for licenses,
lodging, equip., etc. I am really fired-up about this and promise I can put together a trip worth remembering. The two main rivers of focus will be the
Metolius River (Bull Trout) and the lower Deschutes River (Steelhead). If you research these rivers you will see they are rich in tradition and have a
world-wide reputation as Blue-ribbon waters.
I am going Bull Troutin this weekend so hopefully I will post some good pics. Later, Thom |
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harleydeen |
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I also would vote for the whole event. I can just go to the inlaws in Goldendale, Wa. and be just a hop, skip, and a jump from the lower Deschutes. So once
the specifics get settled I can get a better feel of the wheres, whens, and hows.
By the way, was there for the Thanksgiving holiday and hit the Klickitat on Sat. Didn't do any good, but damn that river was full of boats. Every 100 yds there was a drift coming thru or sitting...made my day more fusterating!!!!! I loved being out there though....
Tight Lines,
Harley Lk. Stevens, Wa. |
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Rockthief |
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i know a fellow at a local flyshop who fishes for Bull Trout on the Metolius frequently. I will get the goods from him this next Saturday especially about
fishing for Bulls in Oct/Nov. I think later is better, but not sure.
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flyfishing4goldentrout |
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See if you can get any insider info on flys, also if any are available for us travelers Im sure each river is gonna have its own pick of the hatch.
Richard |
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flynbird |
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I have about 300+ days on the Metolius in the past 8 years and have been guiding in the area since 1999. I know every nook and crany of the Met.
Rockthief, do you live in Eugene? If you are local, anytime you want to come over and give the Bulls a shot, I will take you out. If you want. Harleydeen, Sorry to hear about your frustration. The Klickitat can be a popular one. Some nice Steelies in there though. Later, Thom |
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flyfishing4goldentrout |
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Sounds good, do tie some up and post them. Also let us buy a good selection. I'd rather buy a local hatch selection thats proven, then fish them, take them
home and copy them or do my own little things and do them again. About 80% of the good flys I get I just end up tying them and sharing them, but its great to
have the locals on hand when your fishing new water.
Whats the local weather like in Oct/Nov? water temps etc. Today airlines charge more for extra weight and baggage, so knowing that will help me gauge if driving would be cheaper. Big Feet, large insulated boots and wadders, wool cloths etc add alot to the cost of flying. Also if Im that far up I might as well fish the Columbia if its open season, even head on up into Washington for a bit of fishing or even take a boat out of Juno. Once on the road with the back of the Jeep packed with tackle and cloths etc, I tend to make it a road trip, often a couple of weeks. One of the big plus things being retired. Boy is that another story. Richard |
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flynbird |
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Richard, I will post links to a few local fly shops I have trust in and are very knowledgable.
Weather in Central Oregon in Oct/Nov: October is a beautiful time of year to be here. Nights get down to around freezing but day time highs are usually in the 60's with cool mornings and evenings. By the middle, to end, of November we get our first dusting of snow but day time highs can still be in the 50's. I feel the clave should be end of Oct/ beginning of Nov. That way have a better chance of good weather and fresher Steelhead in the Lower D. Water temps: The Metolius is a giant spring creek. It flows at around 1400 cfs and 42 degrees year round. Rarely does that change. I have seen the river dirty twice and both time the Bull trout fishing was spectacular. The Lower Deschutes is a large river that is best broken down into slower water. Staying close to the bank and looking for walking speed water 2-4' deep. It is dam controlled but has to maintain flows to protect salmon and steelhead. Normal flows that time of year are around 4000cfs and 52 degree water temp. Hope this helps, Thom |
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thanks thom, in addition to meeting up with the guys next fall, i'm looking forward to heading down to OR to check it out beforehand. thanks for the
invite! -mike
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flynbird |
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Mike just let me know when your comin.
Here are a few links to a few fly shops: The first is The Patient Angler. The owners name is Pete and he is quit possible the nicest and most knowledgable shop owner I have meet. If there is really something I am looking for this is my go-to guy. His link is: http://www.patientangler.com/index.php This next one is the closest shop to the Metolius River, so naturally they got it dialed: http://www.flyfishersplace.com/home23 These guys do more days on the Lower Deschutes than practically anyone I can think of check'em out: http://www.theriffleflyshop.com/Fly+Fishing Well I hope this get people going on flies and such. I should mention also that there is no guiding legally allowed on the Metolius River. This equals less pressure. This is good. Later, Thom |
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I just ran airfare from Charlotte, NC to Portland, OR for the last weekend in October and the fare was $233. I wonder how the wife would feel about spending
our 10 year anniversary at the BULL TROUT CLAVE!!! HA... I already know the answer to that question.
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Rockthief |
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Cameron, Portland shopping. Good, very good shopping. You fish, she shops, you meet somehow somewhere.
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Rockthief |
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actually, Bend shopping. Nice city. Close to the Metolius and the Bulls.
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rodblank |
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Thom,
Rodblank here. We have discussed the bulls on the Met in an earlier thread. I'm here in Eugene and would love to get in on a bull/metalhead clave. I have a ever changing and hectic schedule, but with this much advanced notice I will be able to work it out. As a fellow Oregonian, maybe I could help you with the planning, etc. Should we give a thought to renting some of the small cabins/rooms near camp Sherman? Let me know if you want to exchange e-mail addresses or phone numbers to discuss the clave. Craig |
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flynbird |
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Thanx rodblank. The cabins would be a pretty sweet idea. Don't know about the pricing. Was definitely thinking about renting a crew van to shuttle guys
around. I would also like to get e gathering of PNW Glassers going sooner. Always lookin for new fishin friends. -Thom
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flyfishing4goldentrout |
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Hi Guys,
find out about cabin pricing for us Thom, number of beds etc, been snowed in early this year, a number of hard storms, so no power or phones till today, not that I mind alot did get about a gross of flys tied and two rods wrapped. So whats the best rod weights and lines for Bull fishing? I'll have to count on you guys to pickup some of the proper flys, perhaps you could message me as to whats available and at what price, I would have no problem paying you to pick me up a goodly selection. Also what about meals if we are staying in Cabins? I will be driving my gas efficent one wheel drive jeep wagon up if the weather is good, lots of great gas mileage. On the other hand I have some very 8mpg go anywhere including the rubicon 4X4s but then it might get cheaper to fly up. Anyway Im looking forward to a nice rod trip next year. Perhaps on up to Seatle and beyond once on the road. Cameron, have you priced Southwest Airlines? Im a card carrying member and the fairs are pretty cheap. Also if their are major stops elsewhere for you, I will be passing though either Sacramento or Oakland, both have airports and I know Southwest uses Oakland alot for discount fairs. I could use a Co-driver. Although I would suspect that a stop or two along the way for a bit of fishing would add a day or two to the drive up. Sense it just might be that the Salmon are running then. the mouth of the Trinity River, the Rogue and a few others will be along the route. Anyway lets keep it going, I would love to see a west coast clave as a regular Richard
normally I walk down to the lake and rivers edge, (my side) to fish, its sort of a yearly thing, however these storms came almost 6 weeks early and we have two more backed up for Sunday and Monday. Oh well how many flys can I tye and how many rods can I wrap? |
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I am interested in joining in on the fun. I know it is a long of day of driving from Sacramento to Bend. Visited Sunriver resort 10+ years ago with the
family. Just need to know the dates and see what is happening at work. I will keep and eye on the thread and start working on my better half. Bill
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