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Undertow65	Another Rod Id question	Lead	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2 (07/29/08 09:11:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Alright this rod was my grandpa's and my dad said he use to take his clients out flyfishing but he's doesn't know anything about the rod. It what appears to be a stamp on it but it's to faded to tell what it says. I'm not sure what it's made out of. It actually seems like wood. It has no wraps on it. Its a deep reddish brown. With brown thread around the guides. When held to the light it seems like the blank is covered with tiny holes. I have some pics of it but I don't have to time to post them right now. So I guess if I can find out what it's made out of I can go from there. Thanks Undertow65
majicwrench		#1	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 819 (07/29/08 15:43:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	If you can see tiny "holes" you are seeing the weave of the fiberglass cloth I would bet. Pictures!! Keith
Undertow65		#2	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3 (07/29/08 20:38:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Alright here's the pics, sorry I don't have the best camera, I hope these help. I asked my dad about the rod and he said it was the only rod my grandpa ever owned. Now I don't really care what the rods worth but that just made it priceless. Now I just hope I can find out what brand it is and maybe about when it was made. My dad said the last time he seen my grandpa use it was in the 60's. Also when you put a real on it the real does not slide up under the cork like my other flyrods. You put the real into the bottom and tighten the top down on it. I don't know if this is important but I thought it might help. Thanks Undertow
majicwrench		#3	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 820 (07/29/08 21:09:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well it is glass for sure, but other than that I don't know. Most older reel seat were downlocking like that. Enjoy it, is likely a nice old rod. Keith
paveglass		#4	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 754 (07/31/08 23:05:39) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Undertow, I can't tell a lot from your pictures but my first guess is that you may have a Mohawk rod built for Horrocks & Ibbotson, made in Utica NY. The fiberglass looks the way it does because early fiberglass had a much broader weave...sort of like burlap if you want to picture it that way. Most of it was tobacco-colored. My guess is based on the wraps, and the ferrule from what I can see. Compare your rod and any similarity it may have to the pictures below and see if we are close. The first shows a typical Mohawk H&I label. The second shows the open wraps they used and a typical stripping guide. The last one shows the ferrule, of similar style to the one you have. Also, compare the fly keeper if yours has one. How long is it when assembled? Can't say for sure. Was your grandpa from upstate New York, or the area around there? I will tell you that an H&I rod then was the rod purchased by someone who knew their stuff. They were not cheap and were top of the line in their day. You will find it is a man's rod...no wimpy 2 oz blanks back then! You will need a hefty reel to match it and I would guess that you have a 7 or 8 wt rod--the norm in those days. Hope this helps and welcome to fiberglass flyrodders! Donny
Undertow65		#5	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 4 (08/09/08 04:05:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It looks exactly the same as the one in your post as far as color, texture, and the way the guides are wrapped.. The only thing that is different is the hook holder, it's round like yours but shaped like a regular one. The ferrule looks exactly the same except the fat part on mine is wrapped on both the male and female parts. When put together it's 8'1/2ft long. I don't think my grandpa was ever around new york, actually my dad told me it probably wasn't purchased by my grandpa because he didn't fish enough to buy a rod but he probably inherited it from my great grandpa who had a bunch of fly rods and other misc. outdoor gear. My great grandpa was one of the head road engineers for detroit and planned out almost the entire early freeway system for detroit, so according to that and my dad's account they were not hurting for money. Thankyou very much for the info. I love the rod and will not fish with it just because but I plan purchase a old reel for it and hang it on the mantel. Undertow65
graewolf		#6	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 85 (08/09/08 09:18:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I think I would take this great old rod which is so rich in your family's history, out on the water and fish with it at least one time before you hang it on the mantle. If you do you just might have a magical experience and connect in ways you can't even imagine to your great grand father, your grandfather and your father. This rod has a soul and you can be part of that. Mike

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