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Scooter2022	South Bend Classic II	Lead	[-]
Guide Posts: 26 (05/16/08 07:23:34) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi All. This was my first glass fly rod. I actually found Fiberglassflyrodders when I was looking for information about this rod. It is a South Bend Classic II, 1-438-280. It is an 8' 2 piece "Balanced for #6 Line" I know its not a "classic" but I like how it casts and fishes. It was and still is in excellent shape. I just had to clean it up. I picked it up a couple years ago at a local antique store. It had an unmarked old, old brass reel on it. I got the rod, reel and a "Jon-E" handwarmer for $25.00. I kinda like the color of it. It almost looks like wood. I have a couple of other glass fly rods. I'll take photos and post when I have the time. I do have a couple pictures of vintage glass casting rods, a Wonder Rod and a Garcia Ambassador. With the moderators permission I can post those later. Thanks for looking, Tom Last Edited By: Scooter2022 05/16/08 11:49:43. Edited 2 times.
jkurtz7		#1	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 205 (05/16/08 18:12:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Tom, thats a nice looking rod. You got a great deal on that one. J.
mdwwhw		#2	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 179 (05/16/08 18:17:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	That rod is in great shape! I have a couple of Shakespeare "Outdoorsmen" with the same grip, winding check, and decal (which, of course says something else). Wraps are medium brown over gold foil. One is a pack rod. The two piece isn't too bad with a 6 wt, very soft.
flyflingerandy1		#3	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 322 (05/29/08 23:08:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	That rod is so much prettier than the later Classics. Andy
Rockthief		#4	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 656 (05/29/08 23:17:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yes, a pretty rod indeed. I really like those wraps.
flyflingerandy1		#5	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 326 (05/29/08 23:32:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I would love one! Andy
Scooter2022		#6	[-]
Guide Posts: 28 (05/30/08 07:33:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks. Two things regarding the wraps. This rod has metal ferrules, and the female one is wrapped right up to the end. I don't recall seeing that elsewhere. I'll get a shot of that and add it later. The second thing is some of the wraps are showing some bare thread. What I mean is the clear coating over the wraps has worn to where the thread is exposed. Being that it's a fishin' rod and not a collecters item I'm gonna go ahead and re-seal them. My question is can I use marine spar varnish or should I buy something made for fishing rods? I've used spar for other rod guide repairs and had good luck so I'm not sure why I'm asking, I guess just for validation. I have an old Betts solid fiberglass boat rod that I bought several years ago at a garage sale. It was in good shape, but I left it in my boat outside and the weather got to it. I need a boat rod for some ocean fishing I'll be doing on our family vacation this summer so I pulled this stick out last week and I cleaned it up and sanded the wood handle and put two coats of spar over the whole rod, handle and all. It looks really cool and should be good for another 40-50 years. Tom.
jgestar		#7	[-]
Posts: 2308 (05/30/08 12:19:49) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tom, Spar varnish would be just fine. Superb in fact. But you may see some darkening of the thread where the finish is worn away. Usually, I would apply a couple of coats of color preservative first - then a couple of coats of spar varnish. That would prevent the darkening. Try running a search for "color preservative" on the Rod Building forum and you should get some hits for the threads on overcoating thread wraps. Tom
lpirrone		#8	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 1758 (05/30/08 16:23:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	For this rod i would use OLYMPIC WATER BASED URETHANE for the color preserver. other water based urethanes don't preserve as well. or you could always use a designated color preserver like gudebrod. when dry follow with spar varnish or spar urethane.
Scooter2022		#9	[-]
Guide Posts: 29 (05/30/08 19:44:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hey Tom & Larry, Thanks for the words of wisdom. So it sounds like color preservertive works as a sealer that protects the wraps from soaking up the varnish and darkening. Yes, No? Anyway, I'm not a cheapskate, but if I can use something I have on hand or can buy at the hardware store rather than mail order then I get excited. I do have Carver Tripp Water Based Urethane, but I'll take your advise and get the Olympic. Here's a shot of the female ferrule wrap. It is actually the one that has its finish worn away. Thanks again guy's. I hope I can return the favor by helping people like you guy's always do. Tom.

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