STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 1 , 2, 3 & FINALE

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Andymanyankee	STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 1 , 2, 3 & FINALE	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1195 (09/08/07 13:21:03) Rod Builder Deluxe and 1st eBay Oracle Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello This is the remake of a Wright and McGill Daisy I hope you enjoy the photo show ! I hope you don't mind I bumped this post up for Ray it may help him with the basic knowledge he seeks. Ray we have several pages in the archive on rod building and tackle tinkering . Might I suggest you spend some time reading some of the old posts there is a vast amount of knowledge to be gained in these pages buy some of the best rod crafters on the internet . I hope this helps a good picture show I never did finish the narrative as I use these photos when I give a class. Tight Lines and Bumped Loops. Andy M [Andy originally wanted to put this on forum as a PhotoBucket slide show. But the way I have the forum setup, Slide Show isn't very compatible. So I'm sorry about the long string of photos. Andy's original idea would have been nicer. Tom] More to come. Tight Lines and Step By Step Loops Andy M
lpirrone	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 1	#1	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 1926 (09/08/07 13:36:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	have you been sneaking into my workroom at night because it sure looks like the same mess that is in mine. looking forward to the transformation.
Riffling Hitch	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 1	#2	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 553 (09/08/07 19:52:02) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Andy, this is great stuff for people to work with. Most of my first glass/any material builds were from rods that needed restoring. I have a question about the alcohol. What are you using it for? I am guessing that you are cleaning off the old glues but I do not know. One thing that I have found great for cleaning up old blanks is a scotch bright pad. thanks for the post, Russell
Andymanyankee	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 2	#3	[-]
Posts: 1195 (09/08/07 20:34:07) Rod Builder Deluxe and 1st eBay Oracle Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello Thanks Russ. I hope this post is well received. I have spent considerable time in preparation. I plan to use this for my winter Glass rod Build Class. Yes the alcohol is a mild solvent use to clean things up. A habit I learned for Bamboo rod restorations from the late great Bill Tucker. Here's another installment . That's all for now more to come. Tight Lines and Long Loops Andy M
MuddlerOH	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 2	#4	[-]
Guide Posts: 230 (09/08/07 20:55:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Andy, That's a great post. It almost makes me want to take on the Phillipson that Tom has mentioned in the for sale area. Steve
Riffling Hitch	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 2	#5	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 553 (09/10/07 15:02:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Alright andy, I see you are reaming that grip with a round file. For smaller diameter blanks this seems to have worked fine for me but when I hit some of the larger dia glass blanks with steep tapers this method caused me problems. I ended up getting the throat size I wanted and when I worked on the rest I ended up hollowing out too much in the middle and had to fix the finished problem with an injection of heated epoxy. I guess where I am going with this, is this how you do all your reeming and if so is it just being seasoned at the art or do you have some other recomended methods. I purchased the sandy blank reamers and use them now but they are not great either. -Russell
Riffling Hitch	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 2	#6	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 553 (09/10/07 15:06:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Andy, also I just started using the rod bond epoxy from u-40 guys. Just checking to see what your (or others) epoxy preference is. I used 5min epoxy for my first couple rods but then heard it was not that great. The rods are still working great years later. Russell
Andymanyankee	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 2	#7	[-]
Posts: 1195 (09/10/07 17:14:41) Rod Builder Deluxe and 1st eBay Oracle Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello Russ yes this is how I have done my reaming for 30 years now. I have about 10 different reamers that I use depending on the blank OD. I really have no secret just take out a bit dry fit and continue until you have the required fit. I like slow cure epoxy the 12 hour Devcon. Tight Lines and Reamed Loops Andy M
Andymanyankee	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 3	#8	[-]
Posts: 1195 (09/10/07 18:26:21) Rod Builder Deluxe and 1st eBay Oracle Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello Here's a little bit more. Hello Again I know this is painful only one more installment! Tight Lines and Photo Happy Loops Andy M
middlemac	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 3	#9	[-]
Posts: 1307 (09/10/07 19:01:06) Projects Coordinator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	A.M.Y.- just fantastic. Don't stop, & don't worry about the photo quality or the format. As a writer & developer of woodworking project books for fourteen years, I see a process here that could move to a cd or online format in a heartbeat. Good luck with your class!
jgestar	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 3	#10	[-]
Posts: 4206 (09/10/07 21:31:30) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Actually, a photo CD with Andy explaining the process with a voiceover would be cool. When you talk with Andy on the phone, or go fishing with him, you realize how much he loves building fly rods. And he has a great New England accent! Tom
keebranch	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 3	#11	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 1050 (09/10/07 21:43:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Andy, I'm not familiar with this Daisy rod. Could you teel more about its history? Also, from the pics I cannot tell if it's a rounded as well as square or just square. I hope I'm making sense. This looks to be a very interesting rod. Les
Andymanyankee	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 3	#12	[-]
Posts: 1195 (09/11/07 06:50:25) Rod Builder Deluxe and 1st eBay Oracle Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello Les The Daisy is a quad so you're not seeing things. The daisy is a very early Wright and McGill and is of solid fiberglass construction. I basically choose this rod because I wanted an obscure rod to show not only the process of the remake but also that rods that may be considered poor quality can be remade into fine fishing tools. I personally like solid glass I know I may be starting a fiberglass subculture here but I am not all that worried. I have 2 that I fish and you may be surprised that when I take them and let others cast them people at first say oh no or they laugh. After they cast them they stop with the jokes and say well I never would have thought. I said it so there goes the market time to drag out those closet and wall hanger solid glass rods. Just kidding sort of. Tight Lines and Solid Loops Andy M
archfly	Rod remake	#13	[-]
Sport Posts: 52 (09/11/07 08:33:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I don't doubt that it handles a flyline very well. Wright McGill made a fly rod version called a PF-7, for HDH lines. I learned to fish for Bluegills, and later to fly fish on one. I fished it until it just plain wore out, then I did my first rod rewrap on it. WM marketed it with a big label calling the material Nyla Glass, and wrapping the rod in "clown wrap" colors. I still have it, but all the labels are gone. Interestingly, I used yellow silk to rewrap it too. Andy, this is a great presentation. How does agate hold up as a butt cap? I never would have thought to use that material for a reel seat either. The stuff is silica with a Moh's hardness of seven, but it is brittle and chips easily. Native Americans used it to chip projectile points. Ishi, the last "wild" California Indian liked to demonstrate pressure flaking chert and agate with a wire nail. Andy, this is a great presentation, and I like your work. John
gypsy	Re: Rod remake	#14	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 683 (09/11/07 12:21:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Andy can I ask you who's cork you are using? I'm turning with C&D 5 star rings and out of a 108 ring box I might get 1 or 2 grips that look as nice as the one you have pictured
Loudog99	Re: Rod remake	#15	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 582 (09/11/07 15:43:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Nice post Andy. I am enjoying seeing you work and that rod looks like it will be sweet. I like the all cork seat, what are those slide rings made of? Lou
Andymanyankee	Re: Rod remake	#16	[-]
Posts: 1195 (09/11/07 16:20:55) Rod Builder Deluxe and 1st eBay Oracle Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello The cork is a preformed grip that I reworked from stock. When I received the cork it was full of pin holes from what looked like small insects. I soaked the cork in a bleach and water mixture for a week and then air dried them . I lost over 70% of the grips due to the insect infestation , dry rot and other quality issues. I wouldn't recommend the source to anyone. The ones I was able to salvage were then filled and sanded by hand and then the process repeated and sealed with U-40 cork seal. Thanks for the kudos but the cork was more work than what is was worth. I reworked several and wish I had never taken on the task. Next time I'll turn my own !! The rings are Jade they are rings sold in a local jewelry store and run about $27.00 each. I also use hematite they are much cheaper they run around $7.00 each . The end cap is granite man made or I should say bonded from small pieces it would seem.. I purchased them at a local jewelry craft shop for $5.00 ea. I also found some made of Jade but they were very expensive . Thanks for your interest more to come ! Tight Lines and Buggy Loops Andy M
Andymanyankee	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 4	#17	[-]
Posts: 1195 (09/11/07 16:51:24) Rod Builder Deluxe and 1st eBay Oracle Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello I hope you don't fall asleep here are some more shots. Thats all folks. I will get some shots and add them of the rod in action on the river in the next few days. I am Fishing come Hell or High water Thursday my local club meets the second Thursday of the month and a bunch of us spend the day prior to the 6:30 pm meeting FISHING. I haven't been trout fishing in a month with all my rod projects. This rod Project was done in July and it took me this long to post it. Tom really did try and help me put this in a better format. Thanks for all your help Tom as always Tom did his best. We are all Very lucky to have Tom as our Administrator we should all get together and do something nice for him in appreciation for all his hard work and dedication. Alec is no slouch either and deserves a big thanks as well. With out them we wouldn't have a place like this to see a bunch of boring rod remake photo's . Thanks again Guys. Tight Lines and Remake Loops Andy M
gypsy	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 4	#18	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 683 (09/12/07 09:05:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Andy you do a great job with the cork. Considering the cost of cork and the amount of work that goes into a grip most people are getting a real bargain for what they pay for. The Cumbys coffee cup is classic New England! There might be something in the water here that produces great rod builders. I'm up in Maine (grew up in CT) and the historical aspect of rod building here is extremely impressive. If I knew how to type that in bold print I would. If you could let me know how you chuck up the tip section I'd appreciate it. Currently I'm using 100+ turns of masking tape Ok maybe that is an exagerration but you know what I mean. I've actually cut pieces of foam out of the couch cushions to chuck up the tip sections but my marriage isn't gonna last very long if I continue to do this. Thanks Mark
mdwwhw	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 4	#19	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 685 (09/13/07 09:41:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	A great contribution to the board and one I know I'll refer to in the future. That's a rod I would have walked past at a garage sale or may paid a buck for as a curiosity. WOW.
Andymanyankee	Re: STEP BY STEP ROD REMAKE Part 4	#20	[-]
Posts: 1195 (11/03/07 13:15:34) Rod Builder Deluxe and 1st eBay Oracle Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello I hope you don't mind I bumped this post up for Ray it may help him with the basic knowledge he seeks. Ray we have several pages in the archive on rod building and tackle tinkering . Might I suggest you spend some time reading some of the old posts there is a vast amount of knowledge to be gained in these pages buy some of the best rod crafters on the internet . I hope this helps a good picture show I never did finish the narrative as I use these photos when I give a class. Tight Lines and Bumped Loops. Andy M "FISH AND VISITORS STINK AFTER 3 DAYS"

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