Tengas, Fenwick, and Marryat photo by Alpago |
![]() |
| Author | Comment | ||
|---|---|---|---|
tiptop.clarksclassicfl... |
Fenwick FF806 first impressions |
Lead | |
|
Hi everyone -- I'm new to this forum but have participated on Clark's for quite awhile. After 5 yrs of fishing graphite and 5 yrs of fishing bamboo, I
just received my first fiberglass rod to see what I've been missing. I know that like bamboo, the actions of fiberglass rods will vary, some being
faster, some slower but for now I thought I'd give my first thoughts about this first rod. For an 8' 6wt. I found it to be lighter than bamboo but
heavier than graphite. Based on what I've heard and read about fiberglass, I expected it to be slower than it is. It's slower than most modern
graphite, but when evaluated on the "bamboo scale" I'd rate it in the medium-fast range. Certainly faster than many bamboo rods I've owned
or cast. The tip was medium weight and able to work in close even with a DT5 Cortland Classic peach line. The rod is relatively full-flexing but not in a
slow way -- it's more like a big reserve of power the deeper into the butt you go. I tried the DT5 I just mentioned but also a WF6 and WF7 both H&H
Hi-Floaters. The rod easily handled all of them and I think that even a WF8 would be very do-able at distances of 40' or less. A DT7 would probably
overline the rod at distances greater than 50'. One major difference between this rod and bamboo is its ability to handle a wider range of lines. IMO,
graphite also has this ability but the fiberglass seemed able to do it very smoothly. It's a real cannon, able to reach out to 70' more easily than
most bamboo. Realistically, no one fishes at that distance, but like graphite, it achieves the longer distances with less effort than with bamboo. I'm
looking forward to trying some other fiberglass to see the differences. Any suggestions welcome!
|
|||
nativebrownie |
|||
|
Welcome... I think that if you check some other posts on the FF806, you will find other similar impressions. That taper is a pretty fast and powerful glass rod
for many. I know as I fished one for smallies for years. Others will coment - but other Fenwicks will slow you down considerably. The FF705 and the FF79 and
the FF84 defrinitely come to mind. You just started out with a pretty fast glass taper - especially if it is of later vintage....In my experience, even the
years matter with Fenwick. Just handled a FF75 (rated a 5-6) that is a deliciously medium slow 3-4 weight for me ...
Other fine voices will add in - but try other Fenwicks, Winstons, or some Japanese Fenwicks for a much slower experience - Lami also... Just enjoy... Now, you've brought back memories for me of my FF806 on large eastern rivers in the 70's - nice memories - but that DT6 didn't load that rod until a good bit of line was out... NB
Last Edited By: nativebrownie
06/19/09 19:00:04.
Edited 1 times.
|
|||
gearboy |
|||
|
I love the 806. It's definitely on the faster side for glass, that's why I like it so much. It's not a noodle like the Lami's. It's one
heck of a strong rod too as last night I caught a monster carp and gave the rod to my son to play the fish with. He kept saying, the rod's going to break,
it's going to break, ............ just pull 'er in.
|
|||
streamcaster |
|||
|
I think Brownie referenced an important characteristic of Fenwicks: the 2 number rods (FF79, FF75, FF84, etc) are the older models, and they're slower
(sweeter.) The 3 number models (Ff806, FF756, Ff856, etc) are newer and faster . .. and more powerful, too. Most of them feel better to me with a WF of a
line up from what they claim (WF7 for your FF806, for instance.) I'm personally interested that Nativebrownie thinks the FF705 is a slower rod. That
would be the exception that proves the rule, perhaps.
Regards, Peter |
|||
tiptop.clarksclassicfl... |
|||
|
Thanks for the welcome Brownie! I knew that the 3 number Fenwicks are thought to be a bit faster than the 2 number older series and that's why I decided
to start there. About 4 years ago I had Mike Callery build a 7.5' 3 (or 4?) piece Lami 4wt for me. He did a great job but I ended up selling it because I
found it painfully slow. There is a lot of territory between that rod and this FF806 in terms of rod speed. I recently cast a friends Lami 7.5' 4/5wt. 6
piece and it was a totally different rod from my 3 piece and they were both the yellow glass with spigot ferrules. I really liked the taper and it was smooth
medium fast -- kind of like this FF806 but 2 line wts. down -- 4/5 instead of 6/7. I want to pick one up to carry as a spare in the back of my fishing vest
because I often am hours from my car. I know I can like glass rods that are slower than this 806 but it's going to take some time to find out what's
what -- but that's the fun of it!
Gearboy -- I just caught a carp a couple days ago on a 7.5' 5wt. bamboo rod and although I landed it without doing anything stupid or doing the rod harm, I'm thinking the FF806 would be a perfect carp rod or even light steelhead rod. Streamcaster -- That caught my eye too, that the 705 would be relatively slower in this series. I assume the FF75 is slower yet? tiptop |
|||
ribs1 |
|||
|
Everyone knows I love mine. This is definitely more of a small mouth rod than a trout rods. I use slower rods for trout.
I have found that mine works best with a DT6
President
Carp Unlimited www.huronflyfishing.com |
|||
majicwrench |
|||
|
I am more of a fan of the two digit rods, as was said they are "sweeter" for sure. So many rods to try, and so little time.....
Keith |
|||
jgestar |
|||
|
Tiptopl,
Welcome to the Fiberglass Flyrodders! Everyone should own a Fenwick FF806. It is a great all purpose fly rod. It is great for throwing small bass bugs, streamers, nymphs, some dries, maybe a small spinner, or a fly rod lure. And it keeps on fishing as the years roll by. If you are looking for something "similar" in the earlier generation Fenwicks, look for an FF79. It's a slower rod than the FF806, but is the closest for length and line weight. Tom |
|||
Cameron |
|||
|
tiptop...great that we're recruiting more and more boo boys over to glass...or at least giving them more options.
|
|||
russell husted |
|||
|
got to love those fenwicks. i know own 2, and will keep looking for more!! having thrown a graphite rod now for quite some time!!
Fly fishing is not the only part of the adventure!! [IMG]http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff164/russellhusted/jumpingtrout-1.gif[/IMG] |
|||
caddis4 |
|||
|
I have to agree that the three digit Fenwicks are faster than the two digit guys. A step further, with graphite, the multi-piece rods seem faster/stiffer than
their two piece versions...while with glass, the multi-piece verions are a bit slower than the two piece version of the same rod. (In my hand). If so, could it
be that the maker varied the tapers to compensate for the ferrules.
"All good things are wild and free......"
Henry David Thoreau |
|||
tiptop.clarksclassicfl... |
|||
|
I've read here on the forum that in a given rod, adding more ferrules slows a fiberglass rod down. I've experienced just the opposite with 7.5'
Lamiglas yellow rods. I'm wondering if the addition of several spigot ferrules speeds things up, while multiple tip-over-butt ferrules slows things down?
|
|||
freestoner |
|||
|
Could be. I just sold a 4-piece Hardy Smuggler, 8' rated for #6 line, with spigot ferrules. A fast rod, accurately rated for #6 line in my opinion. Whereas
the Fenwick FF806-4, rated for #6 line, is slower, more full-flexing, and works best with a 5 weight for me. And I think that does have to do with the tip over
butt ferrule design. The FF806-4 is very much the longer equivalent of the FF75-4, for me; and the FF75-4, rated for #6 line, feels like a throwback to the
earliest series of FF75 rods, the ones rated for #5 or 5-6 line.
"I can't not believe in a creator. The birds sing too beautifully and the trout are too speckled." John Martyn 1948-2009
|
|||