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katie31	Howald Glastir glass fly rod	Lead	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1 (06/22/09 08:05:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	My dad was at a yard sale and bought a 1939 Howald Glastir glass fly wonderod with the original metal case by Shakespeare model No: 1290. He wants to know what its worth but everytime I search nothing comes up. Does anyone know how i can find this out? [Edit: I split this topic out of a Pflueger reels discussion and moved it to collecting where it might get more interest. Tom] Last Edited By: katie31 06/26/09 05:16:39. Edited 3 times.
mdwwhw		#1	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 580 (06/22/09 09:54:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Katie31, Welcome to the board! If you will go to the front page of the forum, the bottom listing is for the Fiberglass Fly Rod Wikki, which has an extensive Shakespeare section. I don't see a 1939 model # there but the list isn't complete; if he was told that was the date of manufacture that would be in error as fiberglass rods appeared after WW II. Take a close look at any decals showing on the rod, especially model numbers and a three letter sequence that is a date code. If decals aren't present, there may be a model number and date code on the reel seat. Knowing what model it is is important. Then, post some pictures, lots of pictures, because establishing the condition is also important (include photos of the tube/rod sock as well). Folks here can give you guesses as to value, you can also keep tabs on Wonderods on Ebay. Just a note, the economy is flat and so are rod prices. "Everything's better when wet...." Steve Miller Band
gaddis		#2	[-]
Posts: 450 (06/23/09 06:44:00) Mr. Shakespeare Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ditto on the above Katie31. Pictures would help, especially closeups showing the model number and any other markings.
JeffSod		#3	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 1174 (06/24/09 09:39:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I suspect that the year you note is incorrect since glass rods came later. Sounds like he might have a Shakespeare Wonderod. Might want to have him recheck the markings on the rod and get a length.
jgestar		#4	[-]
Posts: 3778 (06/25/09 20:30:02) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Katie31, Welcome to the Fiberglass Flyrodders! If anyone can figure out the origin of your father's glass fly rod, we can. Yard sales are notorious for selling items with inaccurate stories. As Jeff noted, fiberglass didn't come on the market until after World War II. It didn't take off until the late 40s, early 50s. In addition, yard sales are notorious for selling rods in the wrong case. It may be quite possible the case is from Shakespeare, but the rod is from another company, perhaps even made of a different material such as split cane. If you can take a couple of digital pictures of the rod, you can attach them with your text on this forum (see details here). The pictures would go a long way to identifying the fly rod. Tom
katie31		#5	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2 (06/26/09 05:20:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	jgestar wrote: Katie31, Welcome to the Fiberglass Flyrodders! If anyone can figure out the origin of your father's glass fly rod, we can. Yard sales are notorious for selling items with inaccurate stories. As Jeff noted, fiberglass didn't come on the market until after World War II. It didn't take off until the late 40s, early 50s. In addition, yard sales are notorious for selling rods in the wrong case. It may be quite possible the case is from Shakespeare, but the rod is from another company, perhaps even made of a different material such as split cane. If you can take a couple of digital pictures of the rod, you can attach them with your text on this forum (see details here). The pictures would go a long way to identifying the fly rod. Tom It says right on the bottom of the rod Howald Glastir 1939 wonderod No:1290 by Shakespeare. I'll get pictures for you guys
katie31		#6	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3 (06/26/09 05:22:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	oh and we don't know if its fiberglass, my dad thinks its not because of the date like you said it didn't come out yet, he thinks its glass
StippledPopper		#7	[-]
Guide Posts: 153 (06/26/09 06:55:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Katie31 FWIIW - Here is my take on your fly rod. If the fly rod is an early No. 1290, the blank should be White and the wraps on the guides should be white tape that has been painted red for the most part and black trim at the end of the wraps. The fly rod would have two sections, the reel seat should be cork and the assembled length probably 7'9". The Model number should be a three letter code and would be "engraved" into the metal of the reel seat nearest the handle. If you look at the Shakespeare Wiki about, there is a chart there you can use to confirm the month and year the rod was manufactured. If original to the rod, the tube should be made of a rather thick aluminum and should have about 10 raised metal "ribs" running the length of the tube. The cap should be green at the edges and sides with red and black writing on the top surface which would have a gold background. All original rod bags I've seen for this fly rod have metal balls at the end of the bag string. It would have to be made of fiberglass to be a Wonderod by everything I have ever seen. I don't have any recent pricing on what the fly rod may be worth. In the past such rods have sold on eBay for anywhere from as little as $25 to a little more than $100. On eBay It would all depend on the condition of the fly rod, the number of people interested at that particular time, and how badly they wanted it. Letters inscribed on Wonderods often wear off or are poorly stamped. The "r" in "Glastir" may have originally been something else. Hope this helps.
katie31		#8	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 4 (06/26/09 08:33:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	the only letters worn off were part of the wonderod. i'll get pics
gaddis		#9	[-]
Posts: 458 (06/27/09 10:56:14) Mr. Shakespeare Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	"Glastir" is really Glastik. The 1290 model came in the 7'9" and 7'3" versions. As far I can tell from my records, the 7'9" version was introduced in 1947. The 1290 and 1390 were the very first Wonderod fly rod models. As StippledPopper mentioned, look for a code on the metal reel seat. Here's a page from the 1947 catalog showing these two rods:

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