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Zenkoanhead.clarksclassicfl... |
Refinished Heddon Pal |
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Met with my friend Jerry this morning to test cast a 8 1/2, 6 weight Heddon. Jerry offered to post a pix. Don
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wacokid54 |
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Wow, is that wooden reel seat threaded? Threads milled into the wood itself? Looks really cool......is that very durable? Great looking rod! Great work
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Flywalker |
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The poster can answer better, but I think that's actually the original plastic heddon reel seat. They had some nifty colors back then. Nice job on the
redo.
Use the Fly, Luke! |
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Zenkoanhead.clarksclassicfl... |
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Original seat, grip, check, and hookkeep. How do you like the single thread tipping? The original wraps were not to my taste, but I wanted to compliment the
original decorative wraps, which I also retained. Don
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pearow |
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nice job Don; I like people to recycle these old rods; good for another 50 years-p-
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keebranch |
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Don,
Nice job and a very cool final product. Les |
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cofisher |
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Very nice job Don. It is good to see a good rod recycled back to use.
Catch and Release fishing is a lot like golf. You don't have to eat the ball to have a good time. |
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Jerry,
Welcome to the Fiberglass Flyrodders! Your pictures did justice to Don's rebuild! Don, I like your choices for the rewrap. Did you give the grip a quick touch up in the rod lathe? If not, how did you get the cork to look so pretty? More importantly, did you like the way it casts? Tom |
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Zenkoanhead.clarksclassicfl... |
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Good eye Tom! I won't give away all my secrets, but the first cleaning was with toothpaste. The grip is the original diameter.
This has proved a tough one to line. There is a pretty pronounced tip bounce, less with lighter lines, more as I move up in line weight. Of course the rod casts a long line with the improved guide set, but that bounce is trying my patience. I may try some varnished nylon lines tomorrow and report back. Don |
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robgcp.ultralightflyfi... |
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That is one sweet looking classic...another great job, Don......Rob
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keebranch |
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Rob,
Great to see you over here. Les |
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gypsy |
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Very nice job on the rebuild Don. Everything looks great but the hook keeper wraps really caught my eye.
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jdub.ultralightflyfi... |
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Thanks for the welcome Tom. I have one glass rod at the moment and am getting ready to wrap a second so I may be around a little more in the future.
Jerry |
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jgestar |
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Rob, Welcome to the Fiberglass Flyrodders! It is great to see more people from the UltralightFlyFishing forum. Of course some of the best, ultralight fly rods are glass (yes, I have a
rather biased opinion, but it's true).
Jerry, Careful, glass can be very addictive. Rod building can be very addictive. Building glass rods is downright hazardous! Don, I've run into tip bounce with glass rods before - especially long, softer rods. I think it comes from our modern casting style matched with a soft tip. We all have the "speed up and stop" drilled into our casting technique. With most rods, especially graphite, this adds distance to the cast and forms a tight loop. But with some softer glass, anything more than the barest stop causes a nasty case of the wiggles. Double hauling makes it worse. I cast these rods at a slower speed with almost a roll motion instead of a typical stop. When I finally get it right, the rod stops vibrating and the cast unrolls in a nice, but larger, loop. I guess the slower cast trades distance for comfort and accuracy. Toothbrush, of course. But toothpaste? I wouldn't have thought to use that. Tom
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Zenkoanhead.clarksclassicfl... |
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The hookkeeper wraps are original. Do you know how they did it? The thread is only gold. After a couple of revolutions they darkened the thread with a marker,
a couple of revolutions, etc. I knew it looked a little odd, but under 10x all was revealed. Not a bad idea, really.
Tom. I was happy to have your feedback on the tip bounce. Your observation is correct. Jerry must be laughing, as he teases me about my slooooooow casting stroke on all my rods. The soft tip is the culprit on the Heddon. I will try a more continuous, rolling cast for grins. Also, my fellow ULs are not snobby, and more than a few like glass. We actually have a fair number of cane guys on the UL board. Obviously, the band of UL cane and glass is pretty narrow, if 3 weight is our self-imposed upper limit. IMO, glass and cane make good ULs because the weight of the material adds swing weight to the rod tip, which gives the rod more feel in the absence of line weight. Don |
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Don, The only problem with that "rolling cast" is when a big fish shows up. I revert right back to the "speed up and stop" cast in my
haste to get the fly out there. Of course the cast falls apart and I have to pick it all up and start again. I'm not the epitome of a calm and collected fly fisherman.
No snobbery implied - I'm just glad to see new visitors. There are a lot of familiar names on Clark's, Fiberglass, and UltralightFlyfishing. We've got a lot in common, including quite a few members. Of the three forums, UltralightFlyfishing probably has the broadest appeal to the angling public. I expect it will grow quicker and larger than the Glass forum, and probably larger than Clark's in the long run. Jeremy and Les have a great forum going and it's only going to get better. I agree that a slightly heavier tip helps the cast. As a result, glass and cane are particularly nice for short casts with a light line. Keep an eye peeled for some of the Japanese light line, glass rods. I have a Quiet Loop VF 663, a 6'6", 3 weight that is the nicest 3 weight I've handled so far. Although that might change as I have a couple of 3 weight blanks on "the plan" to build over the next few months. Tom |
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Zenkoanhead.clarksclassicfl... |
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Well the rolling cast was not very good. I did find that a SA Mastery Distance WF7F cast pretty well with a short, limp, casting stroke. I will match it with a
J.C. Higgins/Ocean City #36. I tried a delicate presentation Snowbee in a 6 weight that threw a nice loop, but it was a tad light. I am sure a 7 would be
better, but don't have one on hand.
Tom. Who made the Quiet Loop? Don |
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Upstreeam |
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Don,
That Heddon looks much like my 7'6" Thorodred # 55 Trout, from the mid-50's, I think. It's a nice casting rod, but maybe that's my stroke. You may be onto something with the "short, limp" idea; I'm generally pretty wristy at my normal trout casting distances (and, unfortunately still wristy when going for distance) and the rod seems to answer that well. Mine seems to be a straight-up 5 wt. Generally, it is looking to cast an open loop, and it is an excellent roll caster, but Tom's description is right on; if you try to speed up too much or stop too abruptly, you'll wonder where the sweetness went. Have fun with it. Bob |
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Hi All,
I traded this rod, along with some other items, to Don, for a beautiful little 6'9" 4 wt. bamboo that he made. The rod was one of several that I inherited from my dad when he passed on. Dad was in the sporting goods business back in the 50's and early 60's, and always had a lot of fishing tackle that he was given by sales reps. I fish an 8' 6 wt. fiberglass rod of dad's occasionally when I want a heavier rod than I normally fish. I just recently received this rod, along with several broken bamboo rods, that my brother found in my dad's attic. I never saw dad fish the Heddon and didn't even know he had it. It was in pretty bad shape and Don did a wonderful job bringing it back to life. I'm glad to know that he was able to restore it and can now fish it as was intended. Thanks Don. John |
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Zenkoanhead.clarksclassicfl... |
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Actually, it was in pretty good shape as these things go, John. As is often the case, a couple of wraps had been repaired over the years and all were dry. The
grip (underneath the grime) and reel seat were in excellent shape.
After an alcohol rub down to remove the old rod coating, I was able to recoat with Arm-R-Seal. I kept the original guide spacing, which was unusual in that it was pretty close and well suited to modern lines. The original stripper was way small by today's standards and was replaced by a larger size. The original running guides were dark, so I replaced them with Snake Brand black nickel, which was a good match for the originals. I went down to a size 1 on the running guides. Like my Sears project, the medium brown decal was a good match for #317 brown Janome silk, no CP. For those builders out there, I like Janome silk better than YLI or the other brands for the usual technical reasons. It only comes in size 50. Don |
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