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fred1369	Scott brown glass information...	Lead	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 28 (04/28/09 08:04:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I recently acquired a Scott brown 8'0" #4 3pc. blank. I am trying to gather some information on it. The blank appears to have a slight transparency, when a light is put to it. The early Scotts, I believe, were opaque. This blank has the early brown spigot ferrules, but I don't know if I would consider it opaque. The s-glass, in house blanks never had a 8'0" #4 3pc. (7'10" #4) The blank has a real nice action, crisp and full flexing, I would not call it soft though. It has a fine tip. I don't know if Scott had any unreleased (prototype) 8' #4's in s-glass... Any information would be helpful. Here's some pictures... [Edit: Made the photos a little smaller to fit them onscreen. Tom] Last Edited By: jgestar 04/28/09 10:09:48. Edited 1 time.
mtm905		#1	[-]
Guide Posts: 190 (04/28/09 08:51:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The color of the blank looks the same as the brown glass in my recent purchase. While all of my blanks are currently full length, the sections of ferrule stock I have match the ferrules on your blank as well. I have a copy of a 1983 brochure that Duff sent me that lists the 8' 4wt available as a three piece. My guess would be that is from that era (early 1980's) and of e-glass. I have a few 804-3 blanks. If you have a way to accurately measure the butt and tip I could compare it against my blanks for you. Feel free to contact me. Mike McFarland
fred1369	Scott brown glass information...	#2	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 29 (04/28/09 09:13:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Mike, Are the e-glass blanks somewhat translucent, under light? That is my main question. I know they came out with a 3 pc. in 1983. That would be e-glass. I thought the e-glass Scotts were opaque, no light at all. I have the technology to measure butt and tip. The tip is a tight 4.0, a comfortable 4.5. I would have to check the butt. Thank you. - Fred
mtm905		#3	[-]
Guide Posts: 194 (04/28/09 09:28:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It is a little hard to say by pics, but I think under intense light that is how they would look. Looks similar to the blanks we inspected under light to find sleeves. I am sure Larry K. would now about any s-glass and/or prototypes.
jgestar		#4	[-]
Posts: 3607 (04/28/09 20:06:10) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Fred, Not to be a kill joy, but why did you originally think it was a Scott blank? Tom
Duff		#5	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 513 (04/28/09 20:49:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Fred, just my two cents, and I'm by no means an expert on early Scotts, but the spiral ridges look much more pronounced than the ones on my brown late 70's to early 80's Scotts. Also, I put one under a flashlight and it is indeed translucent but the spiral marks did not show up as distinctly and the lighted area appeared more brown than red as yours seems to be. It may of course be the way your camera picked up the color and spiral markings. On mine it looks like the ridges were slightly sanded and then lightly coated with varnish. This by no means proves that your blank isn't a Scott - perhaps there were variations in the color and depth of the spirals.
fred1369		#6	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 30 (04/28/09 20:52:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I picked this blank up from a reliable source... it has all the characteristics of a Scott glass rod; brown "Scott" spigot ferrules, fine tip, full flex... but I would be open to ideas if you think it's something different. The only part in question is vintage... I know a Winston is opaque... no light and a Claudio is translucent... but, I don't know the how Scott defines somewhat translucent or opaque. From what I have gathered, the F80/4-3 (8' #4 3pc) was started in 1983. That would be e-glass, which, from what I understand was opaque. The 7'10" #4 was built in 1991, it was s-glass, amber, translucent. But, if you think it could be something else, I would be open to suggestions, Scott Fly Rods and their history is not my strong point.
fred1369		#7	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 31 (04/28/09 21:17:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Scott stopped making glass when their supplier changed hands a couple of times and the quality started to suffer, I got that from L. Kenney. It could be a later or early e-glass difference in color... I don't know. If the Scott brown e-glass is somewhat translucent under light, then I would guess this blank is a F80/4-3... Scott did not have a 8' #4 3pc in the Fibertouch series (s-glass).
fingernail	re	#8	[-]
Guide Posts: 50 (04/29/09 04:26:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Not to confuse or confound anything, but I had a berkley I stripped had the same characteristics as your blank, almost see through when the sun hit it, solid ferrules though. I thought the browns were solid in color. Looks like it will be a nice rod though, I think I know where you got it. Great guy.

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