I'm not much of a spin fisherman, but sometimes the wind just won't let you fly cast. I bought some spiderwire for one of my ultra-light reels; it is
2 pound diameter but 10 pound test. I'm wondering if it will work on a spinreel? Anyone ever use the stuff?-p-
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spiderwire on ultra-light spin reel
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Posts: 1524 (03/24/09 11:46:52) |
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Posts: 3464 (03/24/09 13:08:04) ezOP |
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I haven't used it yet, but I have a coworker who uses it all the time on a stiff graphite spin rig. He loves the line because it has so little stretch. Also, the gel spun lines are seriously underated for strength. Your 10 lb test will probably break between 20 and 30 lb. They make 2 lb and 4 lb test spiderwire that might work really great on a light spin rod. Tom |
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Posts: 4882 (03/24/09 15:16:33) Administrator |
I fish spiderwire 10-lb. at the coast on my Penn 4200 SS.
The line is nice and limber. I landed a 24" redfish on it, but knew I had something.
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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Sport
Posts: 2 (03/25/09 11:52:43) |
Be warned that when you get a snag with the super braids you will likely need something to wrap around the line to have a chance at breaking it. It will cut
right into your hand if you wrap it around and pull. When I have used it I put on a couple feet of mono or floro as a leader.
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Master Guide
Posts: 1526 (03/25/09 15:57:54) |
some good points;I was gonna use it on a 6-1/2 foot Wright/Mcgill featherlight rod but that might be a bad idea considering the guides. I have an old lew's
speed stick Ul-153HS which is an old fiberglass with fuji ceramic rings, which might be a better choice.
What knot do you use to tie the spiderwire and mono leader?-p- |
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Sport
Posts: 4 (03/25/09 17:28:04) |
A double uni knot works for me. Make sure and wet it good before you pull them tight.
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Master Guide
Posts: 2158 (03/25/09 19:23:14) |
Doesn't matter what you fish be it spiderwire or even Spectre braided, you need to understand that its like Kelvar,it will cut your hands if you try to
work it without a stout glove while fishing. You will need a belt mounted pair of needle nosed pliers with side cutter to cut your line if it becomes fouled
with others, and you will need to use a mono leader unless you want to tear your hook from the fishes mouth, braided lines have no streach.
So saying its all I use offshore for big fish. I also use it as my bulk line on my Bass (casting) rods, with a mono shock leader. They are thinner and harder. Look to your guides, they will eat alive soft guides. Richard |
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Sport
Posts: 21 (03/26/09 15:50:03) |
If your spining rod has metal line guides watch for grooves with the spiderwire-that lines is hard on metal----spiderwire will work fine on spinreels and works
well with fiberglass rods with ceramiic guides.
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Posts: 163 (03/27/09 08:16:37) |
Stuff has it's positives, I have used this in Walleye fishing as you get good pound strength, plus the small diam cuts through the water and transmits
strikes well. Works well as stated with a fluro or mono section as a leader.
I have a buddy in northern Michigan who uses the spiderwire as a leader for night fly fighing with mice patterns (and hexes when hatching) as you can put it to a fish going for cover, I have not tried this myself.
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Posts: 79 (03/27/09 10:00:28) |
I have a buddy who is on the extreme end of deadly with spinners and a spinning rod and he uses fine braided lines. Another guy I know uses heavier lines for
dead drifting bait and salmon eggs. The line floats somewhat like a fly line and the technique he uses is a little like nymphing.
In the Finger Lakes braided line is used for jigging lakers. Uni knot is the knot that is used - braided lines are "slippery" and knots for mono often wouldn't hold. You need some flexibility in the system so a soft rod is used with the stiff line. One jigging/fly guide I know uses the braided line as a leader for streamer fly casting for landlocked salmon. You wouldn't get leader failures that way and if they get off it is all operator error. |
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Master Guide
Posts: 204 (03/27/09 13:27:43) |
I used it on my medium weight spinning rod, 14lb test. It has little or no stretch which was perfect for fishing Senkos. the fact that it floated made it much
easier to detect strikes over mono. I found that the Uni-knot was the only knot that held consistently for me and that I had to use several extra turns in the
uni-knot then I would normally use with mono. I set up a rod for my fishing buddy with spiderwire and he had all kinds of problems with knots coming undone(I
think he was using the improved cinch knot)until I converted him to the uni-knot. I also used it on an ultralight spinning rod 6 or 8lb test can't
remember which but found for my type of fishing I needed a clear mono leader section otherwise my catch rate was less than with straight mono. Like others
said, the stuff just doesn't break without a real effort.
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Master Guide
Posts: 282 (04/09/09 19:16:26) |
'P' I'd luv to see a pic of that Lews. I had a couple Lews casting rods 25-30 years ago and loved them. I don't remember ever seeing one that
was a spinning rod though.
I personaly would never consider Spider Wire or any other line like it. When spider came out we tried some and it was nearly impossible to break. With others using it they (when hung up) were cutting the line. This caused some problems on our small lake and fellers were getting the line wound in their lower units. It became a nucience similar to trot lines. There are too many good mono's out there these days. Ray............... |
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Master Guide
Posts: 1557 (04/10/09 08:36:04) |
Ray; I use a tippet on it; if I hang up the tippet will break; but, I know what you mean; I got about 200 yards of it caught in my little 91/2 hp outboard
thats on my flatbottom. I like to never got that stuff cut out; it was like sawing steel!!!I'll make a pic or two of my little lew's -p-
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Master Guide
Posts: 1558 (04/10/09 09:11:30) |
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Master Guide
Posts: 283 (04/10/09 17:59:25) |
Yaa, the 1/2 ounce hardware chunkers didn't know what a tippet was. I was guilty of the same during those days but I didn't like what trash it was
leaving in the lake. But anyway, that is a cool looking rod you have that brings back old memories of girips/reel seats from that era. What is the reel? it
looks like some kind of Mitchell. Back in those years was the advent to the average bass fisherman fishing the plastic worm and big spinner baits which both
after learning how to fish offered alot of wonderfull times. At that time I thought that fly fishing was for the rockies and trout. I used mine for perch at
that time and enjoyed every minute. In those days someone with a flyrod was rarely seen and when so, was laughed at. It wasn't until 95' that I learned
about the warm water oportunities with a flyrod. Spinning rods were put into a close catagory when it came to taking big fish. Back then we loaded up our Diawa
Millionares and Shimano Bantams with heavy lines and commenced to the dream of being a BassMasterClasicTeer. Oh well sorry to ramble but history has its place,
at least in my life
Ray...................... |
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Master Guide
Posts: 1560 (04/11/09 06:39:50) |
the reel is a shakespeare 2200; dont know anything about it except it is real smooth ball bearing reel with a nice drag-p-
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Posts: 1155 (05/28/09 10:06:49) Projects Coordinator |
I like the limp quality and it tosses like a maniac. Dr. Slick's braid scissors were a much-appreciated gift from a brother-in-law who reps for gear
companies. In any trashy freshwater a leader is a must.
PS- Ray mentioned Lew's casting rods... TS 148SC 4'8" (Daiwa Procaster loaded with mono)- "almost vintage" with apologies to our forum's more militant members. This is an absolutely fun and deadly lightweight trigger-grip. Gotta love the Faux Fenwick cross-wraps... 
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Master Guide
Posts: 2269 (05/28/09 17:30:22) |
I use the braided almost exclusively for salt water offshore, it has no streach, you feel everything. For toothy crittters I use a SS mono covered leader they
cant bit through, for normal fish a mono shock leader that will allow me to set the hook and let it streach alittle without pulling the hook from a soft mouth.
Let me say my Salt water spinning equipment is in two groups, #30 power pro, and #50 power pro, I use both offshore for Tuna and smaller. Knots are a terrible problem, you need to try just about everything you can find and try and make up your own decisions, the braided lines seem to cut the mono every time in knots. Dont ever get between your braided line in a boat wild tangle up, let the boat hands get involved, you can hurt yourself easily. Get the right side cutter to cut lines and mend them. Learn Knots specific to braided lines. Make sure your rod has super hard guides, the braided will under stress cut the guides as fast as diamonds. Its the best line for offshore Ive ever used. Its stronger, lighter, smaller Diameter and opens up whole new worlds to spin fishers with what used to be called surf fishing gear. Richard |
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Master Guide
Posts: 1623 (06/07/09 07:33:25) |
Middlemac: when I used to chunk and wind my arsenal included 4 of those daiwa PM-10S and a couple of Lew's speed spools . I used lew's speed sticks for
everything except topwater fishing; for that i had a couple of fenwick blackhawks. I still have that stuff stuck back for reasons unknown-p-
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