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flypoboy	My first Phillipson and I could use some help. Photos added.	Lead	[-]
Sport Posts: 8 (03/28/09 00:36:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Folks, First I would like to say that I love this site. I stumbled across it a few months ago and it has hooked me but good. To date I've only posted about a cheapo rod I picked up last year a garage sale, but I have been reading the site almost every day of this long, and nearly finished, winter here in Minnesota. Unfortunately, I also caught the collecting bug again from this site. I started with 1 fiberglass rod a couple months ago and now have 9, and a few new old reels too. I'll get into some of my other rods later, but today I wanted to ask you guys about my latest find. Yes, I am soo ready to play in some water. Damn Ice! It's a Phillipson Master 4 piece #MF476 Line hdh #6, with nickel silver ferules. I'll post pictures tomorrow when I get my camera back from my wife's trip. I found it on a online auction site. (Not Ebay) I mainly bid on it for the only things I could see in the photos, a handle, reel seat and Airex reel that I wanted for a 3wt rod I got last summer. The rest of the rod was in a rod sock. I thought it might be a Phillipson due to the reel seat but wasn't sure. I picked it up today and was thrilled to find the Phillipson Master label on the butt section. The butt , the 2nd section from the butt, and the tip section were all fine, however the 3rd section from the but is broken. (Insert tear here.) whom ever owned it added another ferrule to cover the broken part . To top it of the Airex reel was in well used shape but will clean up real nice except that the pawl is missing. I'll have to find or make something that will work. My big question is what to do about the mid section that is broken on the rod. I was thinking that if I could find out if the blank was the same as a 2 piece I might be able to find someone with a broken tip and cut a new mid section. What do you gurus of glass think. I would really love any help or ideas anyone may have. Any info on the rod would be great as well. I haven't been able to scrounge any up. I think I've read every thread on Phillipson's and Wright & Mcgill's on the site. I picked up a W&M 3A not long ago that I stripped last week for rewrapping all of which I learned more about from this site Thanks for any advice and for the great info this site has. I hope to be able to share more of my knowledge with the group in the future. Bryan Last Edited By: flypoboy 03/29/09 10:17:17. Edited 2 times.
jgestar		#1	[-]
Posts: 3481 (03/28/09 09:51:04) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Bryan, You have a couple of options. 1) If the ferrule repair is good enough, you can use the rod as is. 2) Send the rod to a repair expert and have him remove the ferrule and insert a splice inside the rod. If this was successful, there will be an overwrap of thread at the repair location. Because the repair is in the butt section, the rod action will change a little, but not drastically. This only works if the previous repair didn't remove a huge amount of glass for the ferrule. 3) Call Rick's Rods in Denver and see if they have a matching rod section they will sell cheap. If you could post some photos of the rod sections, we may be able to give you some better advice. Try a pawl from a Hardy Lightweight in your Airex. The pawls from both are almost exactly the same size and shape (the Hardy is just a smidge shorter). I pulled pawls from two different Lightweights to try in an Airex. The pawl from the more recent reel fit fine. The older pawl was a little too snug. The resulting clicking was slightly quieter, particularly in wind. Some guys think the Airexs are too noisy, so maybe you could trade someone a Hardy pawl for an original Airex. Tom
flypoboy	Some Snaps of the rod	#2	[-]
Sport Posts: 9 (03/28/09 18:11:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I have a few photos to share that might clear up the spot I need to fix. As you can see, this is not a showcase rod by any means. It needs some cleaning a few new wraps and that section repaired or replaced. It does scream out to me to fish it hard after repair. Take a look: The repair ferrules were coming of so I pulled them to see the damage. It appears the break is right where a guide should be. I don't think this is a good break for a repair, as it is cracked up both sides of one piece. That is why I'm thinking if I could find a tip section from a 2 piece that is broken closeer to the tip I could make a whole new section. I will try to get a hold of Rick's Rods to see if they can help. If any one hear has a piece that might work I'd be happy to purchase it. Thanks Tom for the info about the reel pawl. I have no Hardys, and with this economy I won't unless I'm reel lucky. Is there a good place to go to buy pawls for the hardy's I've found a few site online, but don't know which to chose. I'd also rather give my money to someone who supports this site. Any Info, or Ideas about this rod are welcomed. Bryan Last Edited By: flypoboy 03/28/09 18:16:13. Edited 1 times.
Colston Newton		#3	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 191 (03/29/09 17:33:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	That breal should be an easy fix. Find either a piece of glass that will fit in the two section about 3/4 of an inch on either side or a balsa dowel of similar size. Clean up the raggeded edges and glue the entire business together. With a guide atop it, it won't show and, since the wraps of a guide dampen action anyhow, the rod should work fine.
flypoboy		#4	[-]
Sport Posts: 11 (03/29/09 21:45:20) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks for the Idea Colston. I think this is what I will do until I can find a full piece to replace it with. At least that will allow me to fish it.
majicwrench		#5	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 1097 (03/29/09 22:39:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yup, put a hunk of glass in there and fish it. Loads of info on the site about such repairs. I would not recommend the dowel. If glass is cracked make sure hunk fits to end of crack. I have tons of spare rod parts, and could come up with some sort of rod section, might be a different color however! Keith
flypoboy		#6	[-]
Sport Posts: 12 (03/30/09 00:06:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hey Kieth, Thanks for the offer I might just take you up on it. Tom just sent me a PM about doing the repair myself, and I have to admit I don't have much background with repairs of this type, which is why I may go for the repair and still try to find a section that will be an approrpriate fit for the rod. The more I look at it the more I want to make it as good as it can be. This rod will most likely not see water for a little while. but I have a whole bunch of others to tryout in the meantime. With this new addiction I'm sure to have even more soon.
Cornmuse		#7	[-]
Posts: 774 (03/30/09 20:04:48) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I also caught the collecting bug again from this site. I started with 1 fiberglass rod a couple months ago and now have 9, and a few new old reels too. - didn't you read the disclaimer that says you should use extreme caution lest you end up with far less money and more rods that you'd anticipated? It's a common problem around here! Good luck with the repair, I'm sure it will work out well. Give us a full report once you get on the water (I hope the ice is out by mid-May when I plan on fishing Minnesota!) Joe C. "Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit, and resign yourself to the influences of each." - Henry David Thoreau Visit www.flyfishohio.com for great fly fishing and fly tying articles, the "Adventures in Fly Tying" monthly video podcast and the "Adventures in Fly Fishing" monthly audio podcast. The Midwest isn't a place you fly over to get to good fishing - it's right here in our own backyards. Think globally - fish locally.
flypoboy		#8	[-]
Sport Posts: 13 (03/31/09 19:43:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Damn Joe, I missed the Disclaimer, and I'm already starting to come up with Ideas on places to hide some of the gear I keep finding. My wife is starting to give me funny looks when she walks past the stack of rods that has suddenly grown in the corner of my office. I have been keeping her happy by buying things at estate sales that she likes to collect, along with a rod or reel that I like. Working so far. You should be fine with the Ice depending how far north you're heading. We're real close in the cities, but the northern area is still thick in most areas. I'd love to meet up with some fellow members of the site in this area, if you're coming up to meet with others. Give me a shout. Bye the way Joe, I have been reading your stuff for quite a while now on the Ohio site and have enjoyed it and the site greatly. Bryan. Last Edited By: flypoboy 03/31/09 20:11:35. Edited 1 times.

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