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tonemike	Para/metric Connection	Lead	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 632 (03/18/09 03:06:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	i'd mentioned before, that i recently got an 8' 6/7wt kurt gowdy para/metric. a few days ago, i met up with a newer member of FFR to let him try out several glass rods and help him figure out which lines he liked best for his new FF765. it was fun stringing up a bunch of rods of course, but man, was i ever impressed with that gowdy! i still haven't spooled my new 7wt mastery nymph taper, but i'm not sure i even need to. the 7wt air cell2 line i have worked so nicely, i'd find it difficult to believe that any line could cast much nicer on it. i let david cast it and he kept muttering praises as he cast, and i was a bit concerned that he might not give it back to me. all joking aside, i just couldn't be more pleased with this rod. the funny thing is, i didn't have the same connection to the 6'3" or the 7'6" that i used to have. it's interesting to me how differnt lengths of the same series of rod can feel so different. do you guys find this to be true as well?? -mike
corlay		#1	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 710 (03/18/09 08:17:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Mike, I'm a new 8'0" PG-40 owner myself, and also had it out lawn-casting for the first time recently. I also liked it with a WF7F line, and my plans for this rod are primarily for panfish/LM bass pond fishing. Although, high-water streamer fishing for trout with this rod would be really great, too It's surprisingly light for an 8'0" 7wt. rod, don't you think? My other rod in this class is a GC 2536T 7'10" 2/1, and it's a tank in comparison. (but I also really like that rod, despite its weight.) As far as differences within a series go, I believe that every series of rods has a at least one "sweet spot"; with regard to weight and taper. I happen to be in possession of my Dad's 7'0" PG-40 right now, to do a bit of cleaning up and repair, but i have not yet even cast it. But I most certainly will. I'm surprised to hear that you had trouble "bonding" with your 6'3"; as this seems to be a very highly regarded rod by most who have fished it. Maybe you're just not a "true parabolic" kind of Guy? It has been declared by a few hear before that, although really great casting rods, the longer (>7'0"-7'6") Berkley Parametrics aren't really truly parabolic in flexure. "From my observations I think that most of us spend too much time worrying about our tackle and too little time learning the intimate characteristics of the fish and streams we fish most." - Ray Bergman Trout, New York: Knopf 1938 Last Edited By: corlay 03/18/09 12:13:39. Edited 1 times.
Arctic Grayling		#2	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 295 (03/18/09 11:31:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I too picked up a Parametric last fall and was very impressed with it when I fished it. I don't think mine is Curt Gowdy. I thought it was a PD-40, but it might be the rod that Corlay has. I might be confusing the initials with my .44.
majicwrench		#3	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 1079 (03/18/09 11:38:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	"PD" stands for Parametric Deluxe, and is the same blank but with diff hardware and trim. Have never had nor cast the 6'3" PM, but for me that is just tooooo short to be a useful rod, and it is hard for me to even evaluate casting short rods cause I do it so seldom. Methinks I love my 8.5ft PM's more than the others. Keith
tonemike		#4	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 634 (03/18/09 22:35:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	corlay, ya, i think it feels very light in the hand. maybe it's not a weight thing as much as a taper/balance thing. who knows? i just really like it. i'm definitely not a parabolic action guy. i typically gravitate more toward 7-7'6" fenwicks, 2pc d'glass rods, and my system 5... none of which even slightly lean toward parabolic action. i'll be interested to see what you make of the 7' gowdy. hey grayling, 40... 44... whatever it takes. keith, hmmmm. an 8.5' para/metric? can you tell me how you'd compare it to the 8' version?
Arctic Grayling		#5	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 296 (03/19/09 01:27:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	My rod is a three piece 8' Parametric Deluxe PD40 7 weight. It weighs 3.25 ounces.
caddis4		#6	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 271 (03/19/09 03:22:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I had reluctantly sold my Gowdy PM 8ft....sure do miss it. But I've kept my 7ft Gowdy - my women, children and guns will go before this rod ever leaves my side. Very, very sweet with a DT5 or WF6 444.
TXTrout		#7	[-]
Guide Posts: 228 (03/19/09 09:38:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	as Cory mentioned, I don't consider the parametrics parbolic at all, nothing like a PHY parabolic. The 6'3" does have a parabolic feeling, but all the others I've ever cast were a nice progressive action. If I remember my facts correctly, the parametrics where the first rods designed using computers. I personally like the 8ft 6/7 2pc and 8'6" 7wt 3pc. Robert. "Some paths are best not taken alone" John W. Barfield
bassackwards		#8	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 401 (03/19/09 09:42:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm not normally a fan of rods shorter than 7.5'. However, that 6' 3" parametric is fantastic. It has no problems roll casting or making longer casts. The taper is different from the 8 footers, so that may be why you don't like it as much.
david.clarksclassicfl...		#9	[-]
Sport Posts: 22 (03/19/09 10:26:04) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Mike, thanks again for the afternoon of casting. That was an amazingly fun and enlightening experience! I did notice my grip tightening on that Gowdy, but I thought it was because my fingers were freezing. Let's do it again. Of course I may need to cast that rod again, you know, just for old time's sake.
Taeke		#10	[-]
Sport Posts: 39 (03/19/09 10:42:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Interesting thread! The Parametrics, up to what line weights did they go? I can't seem to find much information about them.
corlay		#11	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 715 (03/19/09 10:45:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Taeke wrote: The Parametrics, up to what line weights did they go? 9'3" 9wt. "From my observations I think that most of us spend too much time worrying about our tackle and too little time learning the intimate characteristics of the fish and streams we fish most." - Ray Bergman Trout, New York: Knopf 1938
majicwrench		#12	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 1082 (03/19/09 12:05:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Mike, The 8.5ft 2pc is a more powerful rod, but still about the lightest in its class. Doesn't flex into the handle quite like the 8fter does. I like that extra bit of lenght. I spent the day fishing this rod ( by accident) with a 10wt sinking line, and had no problem. THe 8.5 3pc is a tad heavier due to the extra ferrulle, and is also a tad slower. Mine has seen lots of time carp fishing among other things. My 8ft 3pcers get used mostly in smaller waters, and usually with a 6wt. They are sooooo sweeeeet and smoooooth. Keith
CreationBear		#13	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 307 (03/19/09 14:21:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Caddis4-- Any chance I could coax a rod review out of you regarding that 7-foot Para/Metric? I doubt I will ever see the 3-piece version, but I want to be ready if ever one comes up.
caddis4		#14	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 273 (03/20/09 15:21:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	CB, I'm not very well qualified to do a rod review. Best I can say is that it is very responsive and accurate in close and seems to "rise to the challenge" when longer casts are needed...almost like it has some reserve power when called upon. Flexes down into the grip where I can feel the blank itself flexing in my hand. Haven't pushed it for distance, but 30-60+ feet is a comfortable range for me. Mine is the 2 piece. It's nicely built...the grip a bit strange, but I've gotten comfortable with it. It balances perfectly with an older Cortland LTD Graphite 60 reel...the silver rim on the spool matches the rod trim very well. And the light weight of the graphite reel makes it a pleasure to fish throughout the day. Where are you located? Would be ok with you trying it out at a clave or something. I'm a New England guy. Lou
CreationBear		#15	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 308 (03/20/09 15:50:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Lou-- Thanks so much--that's actually a very illuminating review, especially since the 6'3" Para/Metric seems to have a reputation for needing a little line out of the guides before hitting its sweet spot. I'm down here in Dixie, but hopefully I've got another McFarland's clave in my future, so I might take you up on your offer!
Upstreeam		#16	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 410 (03/24/09 15:12:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Jon, I've got a 6'3" and I agree that it needs a little line out. Not sure what sort of "Southern Clave" is in the works, but if we're ever going to be in the same place, remind me and I'll bring it. Bob
caddis4		#17	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 276 (03/24/09 16:37:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hmmmm... I'll have to pay closer attention next time I'm out with my 7ft Gowdy. Seems I remember primarily using the WF6.
fishngy		#18	[-]
Sport Posts: 39 (03/27/09 17:03:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I picked up a Curt Gowdy Signature PG-40 8'6" this month. It came with the original tube and sock for $15. Seems to throw a 7wt line very nicely while lawn casting on a windy day. I am hoping to test it on some bass next month during spring break. Is this the same rod that everyone is talking about but a longer length? I thought it was as nice as my Fenwick FF 807 or equal in casting in the backyard. I will give my impression of both when I actually test them on the water. Bill
majicwrench		#19	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 1092 (03/27/09 20:25:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yes, that Gowdy is basicly the same rod, just longer and with diff trim than the standard Parametrics. OK, where did you get one for $15??!??! Those are nice rods, lighter than the Fenwicks, you will love it, or sell it to me for $5 profit. Keith
fishngy		#20	[-]
Sport Posts: 40 (03/27/09 23:10:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I bought it off a member from my fly club. He had it at the annual swap meet my club has before Xmas, but I ran out of money buying other stuff. So two months ago, I ask if he still had the rod and if he would take $15 for it. He had it marked for twenty at the swap meet, he agreed, and brought it to the last meeting. Several people were shaking their heads as I bought it, but I think I got a deal. I did buy a Fenwick FF85-3 in excellent condition in original tube and sock for $28 at the swap meet and Orvis Rocky Mountain 3/4 reel with two extra cassettes for $30. I like the ability to change lines in seconds and have two other reels of the same size. So, I have these three nice rods and need to go fish them. I also have the Western Auto 7wt that you sold me. I rebuilt it and have a Garcia automatic on it. It has beome a slow and deadly disease finding these old rods and reels! That is my story and I am sticking to it! Last Edited By: fishngy 03/27/09 23:13:36. Edited 1 times.

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