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Posts: 117 (01/29/09 19:24:46) |
I found a Beaudex reel for a decent price. I have a couple of questions though. The reel is listed as a 3 5/8th inch diameter. Is that an acceptable reel size
for a 7 1/2 foot Fenwick FF765? Second question; How do you pronounce Beaudex? Is it BOO like something Casper would say, + DOUGH like the Pillsbury Doughboy?
BOO-DOUGH? Silly questions I know, BUT, I'd like to know.
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Posts: 99 (01/29/09 19:59:19) |
I think it would be too large. There is a 3" Beaudex on Clark's site for $75 shipped. I do not know the seller.
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Master Guide
Posts: 237 (01/29/09 20:05:59) |
Joe,
It's pronounced "Bo-dex". You can read about them here in the reel papers. According to the listing, it's either a 3 1/2" or a 3 3/4" reel and I think both would be too heavy for the Fenwick 756.. Doug |
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Posts: 4560 (01/30/09 06:49:29) Administrator |
there is no such thing as a 3-5/8" Beaudex, so it must be 3-3/4", which is a pretty big reel.
I have a 3-1/4" Pridex rebuilt and converted to LHW for sale, listed on my profile. I do know the seller, and he stands by his work. The 3-1/2" Milwards Flymaster (Beaudex) LHW conversion I have listed is a dream, fellas. If you know anything about the Brits, it's Bo DeX. They intentionally anglicize the pronunciation of (especially) French words. Louie Bougle, the French casting champion who requested the reel bearing his name. Hardy calls the reel, Boog-Lay.
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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Posts: 102 (01/31/09 10:15:06) |
"If you know anything about the Brits, it's Bo DeX.
They intentionally anglicize the pronunciation of (especially) French words. Louie Bougle, the French casting champion who requested the reel bearing his name. Hardy calls the reel, Boog-Lay. " i can see here in the states Bougle might become Boogle as in a scary google search but wouldn't an anglicized Bougle be similar (boog leh)and not boog-lay? just curious... lol eric fresno, ca. |
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Posts: 4563 (01/31/09 10:21:31) Administrator |
I'm sure Louie would cringe if you said anything other than boo-Lay.
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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Posts: 1194 (02/01/09 04:13:25) |
"bow-dex" Now Lotech, that Pridex Bulldog is referring to sounds like it could be a good match. A 3 3/4"Beaudex is more of a bass/steelhead
size. The later Pridex had dual pawls like the Beaudex. Be wary...the older Pridex models are RHW only and were the original Condex. OK if you wind with your
right. The Pridex Light and Beaudex will set LHW or RHW. The difference is weight. The Beaudex weighs a fair bit more because it has a drag adjustment. IMO,
you won't need to adjust drag for a 7'6" rod. Go lighter. The Beaudex may be a top shelf model to collect but IMO, the dual-pawl Pridex or if you
wind right handed, the Condex would be a better mate for your rig.
Now, this will likely show you more than I can explain. http://www.jwyoungs.co.uk/reels.htm Shoulda thought of this first! PS: If you think the Brits are bad, we have a town here named Latrobe. Half the folks living there call it LAY-trobe. They also refer to Italian cuisine as "Eye-tell-yin". Now, Bougle? That's simple : BOOgle like Google!
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Posts: 3044 (02/01/09 08:01:27)
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You say "Boo Dough" and I say "Bo Dex"... This thread sounds like school. HA... Careful catching a Young Addiction...because it takes
from buying "Just one more reel"...
...to collecting a whole mess of them. I think I've added a couple since this photo was taken. One of the most interesting and satisfying vices I've had in a long time. |
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Master Guide
Posts: 676 (02/01/09 08:04:11) |
The English were originally people who fished with "angles" (hooks) as in Ike Walton's (not the guy from some hollow in Tennessee where they had
more hooks and nooks than teeth) "Treatise {that's a big word} on Fishing with an Angle." But the Anglish Brits made it "English." In
America, Webster (not sure if he was an "angler," but he warnt and "Engler") compiled the dictionary wherein he purposely ignored AEnglish
spellings like colour and flavour with a "u" becaws it was an American dictionary so take that, you Oxford anglers. In Maine, the downeasters who
retain that famous accent are said to have the closest pronounciation to that of Elizabethan Anglish, ehr English. But evidently they cared not for French
parlance, because even the Frenchmen in Maine pronounce the towns of Calais as "Cal-ass" and Detroit as DEE-troyt, and Saint Agatha as SANA Gat, and
Woolwich (not French) as WOOL-itch. So no wonder these British reels with the French-like spellings and quizzical pronounciations had to be Englicized by
Shakespeare (an American company that became big in Europe later) or Orvis in order to sell in New Angland. Better to pfish with good American reels with
correct spellings and model designations that were easy to pfigure out since they were numbers like 1492,1494, 1495 and 1498. Fplus you didn't need to know
how to spell Pfourteen. By the late 20th century, Arnold Gingrich, a cosmopolitan guy from New Jersey (which is in America), took it to another level of
friendly cultural disputatiousness by bantering with a cosmopolitan European feaux Frenchman, Charles Ritz, over things like where the pinky finger should be
placed on the grip of a 6-foot fly rod versus the manicure most suitable for a 6-foot 2-inch rod with a vario-cork grip. So how to say Boodoo these days is
just so much fishing lore, but the smart guys kept buying reels with numbers and thus got over on Gingrich and Ritz pretty good. Even Young went to numbers
with the 1500 series, which is not hard to say.
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Posts: 254 (02/01/09 12:00:45) |
Cameron-
!!!!!CAUTION!!!!!! Posting a picture like that flock of Youngs can be very hazardous to your reel collection- Should your wife see it!!!! Unless of course, the picture self destructs in 30 seconds! |
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Posts: 63 (02/01/09 12:33:55) |
Listen to Cameron and Arctic Grayling - Caution is right!
It's true Joe, You'll say "I gotta get another of those "Ex" reels and before you know it you'll say "How many do I have??!!! That's enough for now... "What about one of them "Jubilee" reels I've seen". Good luck with your decision - Enjoy! It starts with one and then... 
maybe another... 
a couple more can't hurt... 
and like I said "What about them Jubilees" 
ooops - forgot to include the 1510 I know - self-indulgent post - just giving my reels their fifteen minutes
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Posts: 677 (02/01/09 15:05:03) |
Nice collection; nice photos, Cameron and Frank. Which is the 1510 in that photo--not sure I recognize it--or is that the one you have to add a pic of? You
will add a pic, right? Thank goodness I can enjoy them here and am thus satisfied witha pair of 1525s. How do the French say "Jubilee."?
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Master Guide
Posts: 64 (02/01/09 15:30:42) |
Whrlpool, I misspoke - its the 1525 that I forgot to include. They are nice reels - easy to enjoy. There is a 1510 (and 1520) but I've never handled one.
They're close relatives to the 1525, 35, etc... as far as looks are concerned. I believe the 1510 is a 3 1/2 in. narrow spool like the 25. Also, I'm
not sure but I think with the spool release the handle comes off as well? Anyone for clarification.
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Master Guide
Posts: 678 (02/01/09 15:53:01) |
Thanks, Frank, I misunderstood. Have the 1525 and pretty much recognize the others in the series, so I couldn't spot it because it isn't there. The
1525 is a great reel. There's a multiplier or two in the 1500 series also. The Daiwa branded Young reels from this series have ventilated backs. Pretty odd
an Asian company sourcing from a British maker, but they did. Don't know how they pronounced reel names either. The bigger question, how do the French say
Pflueger? Is it "Pyeh-floo-JAY"?
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Posts: 65 (02/01/09 16:12:10) |
LOL Whrlpool, Good question - I was going to say that that brings us full circle but its more like an oxbow! I've been tempted to purchase some of those
Young/Shakespeare descendants as well - Glider, Worcestershire, Beaulite etc. - just to take a look inside and out. More curious than willing.
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Posts: 4566 (02/02/09 07:51:26) Administrator |
Handling some of the last Young reels, it's difficult to comprehend how they went out of business.
The ceramic composite reels had to be so inexpensive to manufacture compared to machining barstock, and you would think their price could undercut even the imports. Both the disc drag and click pawl variants function so perfectly. (Of course, these are still being sold in Japan by Axisco) http://www.navybass.com/c...ue/reel/ANGLE/FLY/J.W.htm  
  
 
  
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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Posts: 64 (02/02/09 09:40:59) |
While in Scotland this last summer, I saw a surprising number of Young reels (mostly composite, disc drag ones) still on the shelves of tackle dealers. They were priced well, and I wish I had picked up a few. Can anyone tell me about a 3530 reel? It's a multiplier that looks like a member of the 1500 series. Was there another, similar series to the 1500 series? |
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Master Guide
Posts: 68 (02/02/09 12:07:05) |
So that's the inside of the Worcestershire. That looks pretty interesting - maybe I'm more than curious now. Is that all ceramic composite or is the
spool back metal? How much weight difference between that and the 1525? Thanks for the pics Ron.
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Master Guide
Posts: 679 (02/02/09 15:26:19) |
Great, great, great. I hoped Ron would come with the pics, and sure enough. I liked looking over the "No-vex."
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Posts: 4568 (02/02/09 17:02:06) Administrator |
Frank, the weight of the Worchestershire is about the same as a 1525 because of the weight of the checkwork.
The spool and frame are all cast composite and have the added benefit that the color is molded in, so with the finish doesn't "wear" with abrasion. These are all 3-1/2" MW, and I have to admit liking the simple Mucilin Brand best - it has the simple spring and pawl of the earlier exes, but is as light as the Jubilee.
the rods are never obsolete - the marketing is.
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