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The Backpack Rod: 7.0-7.6' 3/4 wt in 5 or 6 piece format?

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docbluedevil	The Backpack Rod: 7.0-7.6' 3/4 wt in 5 or 6 piece format?	Lead	[-]
Sport Posts: 22 (07/15/08 22:50:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm looking for a rod that I can throw easily in a backpack for when I come across that perfect pristine little spring creek in the Colorado backcountry while hiking with the family. I have a handful of 3 pc rods that could be lashed to the outside of a backpack but would rather have a setup that I could store IN a pack. Application: Small spring creeks, usually wind-protected, able to cast small dries/nymphs. Specs: 7 to 7'6" length, 3 or 4 wt, 5 or 6 piece format. I like the entire range of glass actions, so I'm open to anything. Here are the choices I've gleaned from the forum: 1) Lamiglas honey blank..........(7'0" 3wt 6pc).....................[Dave Lewis, $365] 2) Axisco Airrite Stream...........(7'0" or 7'6" 3wt 6pc)..........[Blue Dun, $250 + intl. shipping] 3) Fenwick yellow glass............(7'0" 3wt 5pc).....................[Blue Dun, $275 + intl. shipping] 4) Steffen custom....................(7'0"-7'6" 3/4wt 5 pc).........[Steffen, $400+?] I'm leaning towards the first 3 choices, since they likely have the most owners and experience as opposed to a custom Steffen. I'm curious what people think about the Axisco vs. the Fenwick. I'd love to hear your thoughts and recommendations.
lpirrone		#1	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 1821 (07/15/08 23:28:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	i have a 6'9" (10 piece) and 7'6" (6 piece)axiscos they are both very good for what you want. i think the 7'6" rod would be my choice if i could only have one of these. it casts very well up close as well as out to 35'. at 250+ i think its a good buy. roll casts very well. i have carried both in a day pack. for really close quarters i have used a rio grande 4wt on them. the 6'9" rod has a too small handle. thats my only gripe but the sections are so small its the only way they could make it. i see someone has a 7' version on the for sale board. Last Edited By: lpirrone 07/15/08 23:36:18. Edited 1 times.
yuhina		#2	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 953 (07/16/08 06:03:23) Master Guide Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Doc, I fished the Fenwick 7' 3wt and Axisco 7' 3wt both, they are all good rods and very beautiful. But I think they are very different, regarding to the rod actions. In general, Axisco is softer and slower action than Fenwick. For analogy, I like to think Fenwick is mimicing the bamboo action. Slow but have some power; thus Axisco is more like Lamiglas, softer and feel light in hand, less power. Hope other owner will share their experience... Mark PS (attached some fish photos from last summer) I gave my brother this Axisco and it is a great fun in a spring creek fishing. The Fenwick are more powerful, good for throw big indicator too. I was nymphing with some heavy rig. Sometime I put 5wt line to it. www.yuhina.blogspot.com Last Edited By: yuhina 07/16/08 07:45:25. Edited 6 times.
armyflyfisher		#3	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 436 (07/16/08 09:23:51) Master Guide Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Doc... If you're considering a Lami, why not build it yourself??? Speaking as a first time builder, it isn't that hard, you can save money in the process and the experience of catching a fish on a rod you built yourself is unequaled! I haven't looked recently, but I'm sure that 6pc "honey" blanks in the configuration you want can be had for around $100. Just my .02.... David
SilaflexJunkie		#4	[-]
Sport Posts: 39 (07/16/08 12:53:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well, the blank can be had around $100... (lami)
bulldog1935		#5	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 3327 (07/16/08 13:07:10) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Axisco.
yuhina		#6	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 955 (07/16/08 13:48:51) Master Guide Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ron, the reel goes with the rod? lol j/k great set up and awesome reel! I built a lami honey 3wt before.... and it cost me almost $200 just material, I used very expensive material though...eh.. I guess I don't know how to find good value one... but I agree, building rod is a lot of fun... : ) www.yuhina.blogspot.com
docbluedevil		#7	[-]
Sport Posts: 23 (07/16/08 14:45:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	LPIRRONE & YUHINA Thanks for your thoughts on the actions of the Fenwick and the Axisco! When you say the Axisco is slower, how slow do you mean? I currently fish a Winston Retro 6'6" 3 wt, which is probably as slow as I want to get. I also have a McFarland 7'9" 4wt which is on the slow-med side. Can either of you (or anyone else) compare the Fenwick & Axisco to either a Winston or McFarland? Somewhere I saw a "spectrum of action" list. How would you list these rods of interest (including my Winston & McFarland) in action (from slow to fast)? This is what I'm postulating. . (SLOW) Winston Retro < Axisco < Lami honey < McFarland < Fenwick < Steffen < Scott F Black (FAST) BULLDOG Well, what are your thoughts about the Axisco action/fishability? ARMYFLYFISHER I have thought about building a Lami rod one of these days, but I need to familiarize myself with the rod building process more before I make the leap. Plus, I want to use this multi-piece rod in the very near future. The Colorado alpine terrain is finally opening up after a huge snowload from this past winter. I may build up my first rod this winter likely from the venerable Lami honey 7'6" 4wt 2pc blank. Should some wind come up, it sounds like the Fenwick might handle it a bit better. I'm guessing the same is true of the Steffen.
lpirrone		#8	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 1822 (07/16/08 15:43:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	i couldn't compare to fenwick or mcfarland but i would say the axixcos are softer than any of my lamis. softer than both the 7' two piece lami and the 7'6" lami. and more full flexing. having said that i find that for small streams and close in work they are lovely and fishable rods that are more than adequate for that type of fishing. they are also very nicely finished rods. they are very easy casting and roll cast very well which is important to me on my small streams. again, i think i would lean towards the 7' (which i think bulldog has) or the 7'6".
paveglass		#9	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 748 (07/16/08 18:51:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I have not fished an Axisco but I do have a very light Shimano fly rod (yes, shimano) that was made for the Japanese market. It is a marvelous rod for small fish in small streams. However, in that it designed for elegant casting and 8-9" fish...I did find that a larger fish would walk all over you when hooked. I am kind of careful about fishing a rod that is too wispy now. Those look like a string of winners...my favorite rod is the Lamiglas 4 wt 7 1/2 ft 6 pc.
CreationBear		#10	[-]
Guide Posts: 192 (07/16/08 19:03:02) Guide Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	There are a lot of accomplished fishermen on the board who love the Axisco, but if it were me, I would definitely check out the Japanese Fenwicks as well, especially if you're fishing out West under "one rod" conditions. Cameron was nice enough to let me fish his "Continental Tourer" (a 7' 3" for a four if I remember correctly) and I came away very impressed...I think Mark nailed it: it's a bamboo rod in all but material, right down to a little "swing weight" that makes some cane "cast themselves." In fact, if I handled it in a "blindfold test," I would have probably said I was handling a Driggs-y semiparabolic rod, with all the advantages you get in terms of power and versatility. If only it weren't yalller...
boarmountain		#11	[-]
Guide Posts: 136 (07/16/08 20:38:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I like the 7' 3wt Lami the best of all the Lami's. My clients really like the way it casts also. Mike B. www.prairiedrifterrods.com
docbluedevil		#12	[-]
Sport Posts: 24 (07/16/08 22:16:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I can't decide . . . terrible problem, right? I'm leaning toward the Axisco 7'0" 3wt 6 pc, based on recommendations of many. Plus, she sure is purdy. Also, I'm fascinated by some of the Japanese glass rods that are out there, and this sounds like a safe introduction. On the Blue Dun site, it looks like there is a $50 option to buy an aluminum tube; does the rod come with some sort of other tube (e.g. soft tube, etc.) if I don't pony up for the aluminum one? Is it worth getting the alum. tube? I've also decided that I am going to get into rod building; my 3 daughters will get Daddy's first few Lami honey-Frankenstein creations which will be varnished with sentimental tears and wrapped with all kinds of mojo. My wife will get the 4th, and say, " Now, why do I need this? And how is this different from my Orvis Far & Fine?" And I'll reply, "Cuz I need the practice to turn out a decent Lami honey 7'6" 4wt 6pc'er for myself."
Cameron		#13	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 2104 (07/17/08 03:35:19) Moderator and Chat Room Host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I know that I am coming late to this discussion...but the Japanese yellow Fenwick's are one to seriously consider. Granted...I've not touched a Axisco before. One of the things that I was most impressed with upon receiving the Continental Tourer, which is a 7'3" four weight, was how small it could pack down to. After fishing it, and seeing how capable it is on very small to medium sized waters, I am not sure I'd want to backpack a three weight. Just personal choice there I guess. This little four weight has a lot of "skillz" to go a lot of places (with ease) and to do the work (without issue). If this truly is going to be a back pack rod you might not want the extra weight of a aluminum tube but rather fashion one out of a slender cardboard or thin walled plastic. And finally...I am sure that you're "Honey-Frankenstein creations" won't be that scary...but great practice nonetheless. http://www.thefiberglassmanifesto.blogspot.com/
yuhina		#14	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 957 (07/17/08 07:29:47) Master Guide Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Doc, I have cast middlemc's 3wt 7' Mcfarland, and I felt it is faster than Axisco. If you love slow rod, Axisco is the rod for you. I think Creationbear mention the swing weight in the Fenwick is a great note... the swing is a bit heavy in Fenwick, but also increase "the feel" and the power. The blank of the Fenwick is unsanded, you can see the rings along the blanks which add a bit charmy factor to it (to me). It is amazing how well those company handle the multiple pieces ferrules. I think Larry's 10 pieces Axisco is a great one too! : ) Mark www.yuhina.blogspot.com
Upstreeam		#15	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 343 (07/17/08 15:06:02) Master Guide Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I have the lamis, in both sizes, as 4 pc. rods. No experience with the other rods, however. But it looks like you've settled on the 7' 3 wt. over the 7'6" 4wt. as the lami choice, and I was just curious why? The 7' 3 wt. is a terrific rod, I just think the 7'6" is more versatile, and when I get away from the car, that's what I like. When I'm hitting some new mountain water for the first time, I usually go 7'6"; when I come back, I might have decided 7' is a better choice. YMMV. Bob
docbluedevil		#16	[-]
Sport Posts: 29 (07/17/08 17:39:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Upstreeam wrote: I have the lamis, in both sizes, as 4 pc. rods. No experience with the other rods, however. But it looks like you've settled on the 7' 3 wt. over the 7'6" 4wt. as the lami choice, and I was just curious why? The 7' 3 wt. is a terrific rod, I just think the 7'6" is more versatile, and when I get away from the car, that's what I like. When I'm hitting some new mountain water for the first time, I usually go 7'6"; when I come back, I might have decided 7' is a better choice. YMMV. Bob Well, I haven't decided yet. I'm just trying to envision the streams that I have come across in the past when I was wishing I had a rod in the pack, and they were 3-4 wt water for brookies and cuts. In terms of 3 vs. 4 wt, I agree that in general a 4 wt can do everything a 3 wt can do and more (i.e. wind, multi-nymph rigs, etc). In terms of 7'0" vs. 7'6" length, I agree that a 7'6" is more versatile than a 7'0". And that's why I will plan to build a Lami 7'6" 4wt 6pc'er in the future. In the meantime, I was thinking that the shorter transport length of a 7'er would work better for some specific applications that I have in which I trail run (a few miles) into the backcountry to access some smaller waters. A multi-piece 7'er would fit better into a small camelback that I wear when I run. Anyone make a 7', 5-6 pc, 4wt? Cameron, that 7'3" 4wt 5pc'er may be the ticket!
docbluedevil		#17	[-]
Sport Posts: 30 (07/17/08 17:43:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Someone needs to remove Bulldog's picture of his Axisco rod and reel off this thread. The quality of the photo and its content is too darn distracting to make a reasonable decision!
Cameron		#18	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 2109 (07/17/08 18:09:45) Moderator and Chat Room Host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	dbd...I'd think about sending mine to you for a couple of weeks...but I am carrying mine along on the trip to Wyoming next month. If you do order the Fenwick...seriously think about also ordering the Japanese taper Airflo Ridgeline fly line. It is a natural match. I like the 4DT. http://www.thefiberglassmanifesto.blogspot.com/

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