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vincognito	Integral reel foot	Lead	[-]
Sport Posts: 47 (07/15/08 12:33:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I just swapped for this Hardy - Scientific Anglers 150, which has a reel foot that is part of the reel body, not an attached seperate piece. This reel has the same size spool and they work on my Marquis Salmon 1, though that reel has rim control and this one doesn't. (the Salmon 1 spools won't go onto this 150). It also has the same round spring with single pawl, which seems pretty weak on the Salmon 1, but on this one it has a very substantial and loud click. The spring on this 150 looks like it has been bent into an oblong shape but when I tried to do the same on the Salmon 1, it did not seem to make a difference. (I understand there is a metal spring enclosed in the plastic hoop, accessible by taking it apart - and also that some Marquis Salmon reels have the regular duplicate Mark II double pawl drag which I think preferable). Two questions: What are some other reels, especially Hardys, with the integral reel foot? Has anyone else messed around with these hoop springs - can I put a severe bend in it to beef up the Salmon One without fear of breaking it.? -Vinnie in Juneau
bulldog1935		#1	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 3322 (07/16/08 06:18:06) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Vinnie, That is surprising. Even most of my (hmm, can't call them new, after all, my Lamson, Marryat and Ross are 20 to 25 years old) machined reels have screwed-in feet. You'll be educating me here. I thought the hoop springs were plastic? If so, no they will NOT bend. For a plastic to be good spring, it would also have to be a relatively brittle plastic.
keebranch		#2	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 534 (07/16/08 06:21:09) Master Guide Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Vinny, I have an older Orvis ClearwaterII reel with the integrated foot, and I sold another old BFR made reel with that type of foot. As for the spring question, I have a Scientific Anglers 8 with the same set up as yours with a plastic ring. The plastic makes me a little nerviuos about tuning, so I would send it to Bulldog or someone else before messing around with it. Les
jgestar		#3	[-]
Posts: 2481 (07/16/08 08:28:56) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The back side of the hoop is open and allows pulling out the steel core. You could pull it and reshape it, although my personal history of reshaping springs is tragic indeed. Another possibility is to add a length of hardened spring wire into the hoop with the metal strip. Is it possible the Marquis spring has a fractured steel core? Tom
rvreclus	Integral reel foot	#4	[-]
Guide Posts: 120 (07/16/08 09:17:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I believe SA sold the 100 series reels in 3 models, the 130-140-150, back in the 70's. They are a cast aluminum cage reel. If my memory(HA!) serves me, SA had Hardy make a version of the Marquis to be sold at a specific price point. They integrated the reel foot in the design, thus they eliminated some of the extra machining, lowering the cost of the reel. Tom is correct in his description of the drag ring and single caliper. SA still services this reel, as I recently purchased the line guard for my 150. Respectfully RV Reclus
vincognito	Before or after?	#5	[-]
Sport Posts: 49 (07/16/08 18:32:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks RVReclus, Do you know if the 100 series was before, after, or concurrent with the SA System / Marquis reels as a lower cost version? And, did the round spring versions come after the normal pawl versions of the SA System and Marquis? I'd assumed because they looked older that they were, but I guess that can also come from being used, not stowed in a drawer. I'd also assumed that once the models with rim control were out, they displaced the ones without it. I'm learning here too, Bulldog. I'll take that weak spring out of the Marquis Salmon one and compare it to the spring in the 150. Jgestar, I hear you well about messing with them - that's the reason I have two extra Sharpe's Gordon spools that aren't with their bodies anymore as shown in that post. I'll go back and add to it that if anyone needs any Gordon 3.5" parts (except pawl springs) I have them - hehhehheh Thanks again! -Vinnie in Juneau
DoctorFly.clarksclassicfl...		#6	[-]
Sport Posts: 8 (07/18/08 00:49:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	These were sold as Hardy Viscounts in three sizes- 130, 140, and 150. Here's a 140. The springs were also used in the Marquis models of the same period and were nylon coated metal of some description - I understand that they can't be reshaped. regards, Doc DoctorFly Classic Fishing
mvinsel	SA & Marquis round springs	#7	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 259 (07/18/08 22:05:56) Master Guide Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks Doc, I took both of them apart, removed the metal springs from the plastic hoops and figured out the mystery. My Marquis Salmon One has a spring of very thin metal, maybe only 1/16" or 3/32" wide while the SA 150 has a spring much beefier, at least 1/8" wide. You're right, it's no use trying to bend what's in the Marquis, it just comes back to a circle. But the one from the SA 150 when removed wants to be in a C shape, and it's pretty well loaded when pushed into the plastic circle, causes the circle to be way oblong and very tight. My guess is that either the Salmon One spring was replaced with one from a lighter model, or the SA 150 spring was a previous owner's improvement. I'll see if I can post some pictures, and micrometer the SA150 spring to see if anyone can source another like it. This is fun! -Vinnie in Juneau
jgestar		#8	[-]
Posts: 2489 (07/18/08 23:02:13) ezOP Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Contact Bill Archuleta (flyreels@msn.com). He cut a strip of annealed high carbon steel for me that I hope to use for replacement Browning springs (winter project). I'm sure he can get you pretty close, if not right on the money. Tom
Corcut		#9	[-]
Sport Posts: 29 (07/19/08 06:00:10) Sport Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Gentlemen - Is there any way to tone the very loud check of these reels down a bit? I have an SA System 8 reel with the same internal mechanism and it is the loudest reel I own - it startles me every time I strip line off to make a cast. Thanks and regards.
bob4st		#10	[-]
Master Guide Posts: 496 (07/19/08 20:48:53) Master Guide Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I have an old Viscount 130 that I cleaned up... BUT, when I turned the plastic hoop over to remove and lubricate the thin steel spring insert, I foolishly put Hot Sauce Grease in the plastic groove... as a result, when I put the spring back in it lacked the mobility-flexibility and dampened the spring action terribly... SOOO, I removed the grease and replaced it with Hot Sauce Oil and it works beautifully.... I guess ya just gotta know when yer viscosity's gonna mess with yer velocity!... ...I like those Hot Sauce lubes... gotta thank bulldog for teaching me about that stuff... Bob

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