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        <![CDATA[ A few weeks ago I had a friend overhaul and remove the bail on an Alcedo I have.  I reluctantly didn&#39;t know what to expect.  But after some practice and
understanding of how it works I am very pleased.  I can now cast and retrieve faster than I could with a bail and do it without ever looking at the reel.  The
most positive part is without the bail I have illiminated the line tangle at the real because there is no bail to get a half wind that causes most line
tangles.  Thats my... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Bail not necessary.........  ]]></title>
			<link>http://fiberglassflyrodders.yuku.com/reply/72071/t/Bail-not-necessary-.html#reply-72071</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ The Old Man always fished bailless, probably out of long long habit. The first spinning reel I had was a hand-me-down from him. It was a post WWII FIX reel
made in France I think. Between T.O.M and me it saw over 40 years of action. I&#39;ve always found it faster and easier than with a bail. I don&#39;t know if
T.O.M. ever used anything else. The only problem is in a bumpy boat ride the line can hop off the hook thing and free spool line like crazy.
<br>
RFMcD ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:28:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Ive fished the big manaul bail reels for over 40 years both offshore and surf. Gaddis is right on, your rod hand gets to just naturally pickup the line with
the index finger, it becomes a reflex action, when your freelining live bait that same index finger keeps the slack line on the bail roller. I always set my
self up with the spool fully extended and the bail roller at 12 oclock when I finish my cast.
<br>
Mitchell Garcia had kits for several of their spinning reels, so they could come... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:40:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Bail not necessary.........  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;ve never bothered trying to modify a bailed reel unless the reel manufacturer sells a conversion kit. Some people just saw off the bail wire and leave a
little stub, which they file smooth. I personally wouldn&#39;t go that route. The more popular surf reels are either made with a manual pickup or can be
converted to one with a kit. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:21:13 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ How do you remove the bail?
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:14:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The bails and bail springs are not fragile and it is neither the fish nor the water that is the problem. It&#39;s the fact that the bails are subject to
unexpected tripping in the middle of a cast, where the sudden stopping of the lure is going to surely snap the line resulting in the loss of the plug. At the
current price of $15-$20 for a surf plug, no one is going let that happen too many times before they switch to a manual pickup reel. Also, bail springs
eventually fail sooner or later as... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:09:08 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Bails do help a bit with 1-4lb lines and ultralight lures, which tend to jump off the roller occasionally. Closing the bail manually should accomplish the same
thing as mounting the line manually on a bail-less set up (for reducing line twist). I always understood the main reason saltwater reels came with manual
pickups was that bails and bail springs were a bit fragile and big fish/heavy water frequently did them in.
<br>
-CC ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:27:31 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ gaddis I agree with you 1000% Ive used nothing either surf fishing or offshore in California and Mexico but some monster PUM reels (Pickup Manual) the Mitchell
406, 396, 498 are pretty much my favorites, although I have the Penn 8500 and 9500 PUMs as well. The bigger guys are loaded with 50# power pro on really big
Fenwick Tuna sticks made just for spinning rods. Alas none is now available but Ive been a saltwater lover of big spinning rigs and PUMS for over 4 decades.
<br>
Richard ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:39:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, I think I understand. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ There is a line pickup in place of the bail. It is a little protrusion with a roller on it. You put the line in the roller with the index finger of the hand
that&#39;s holding the rod. The movement becomes simple and automatic after a little practice. Here&#39;s an <a target="_blank" href="http://www.vanstaal.com/VSS300_reels.htm">example</a> of what they look like. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:22:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ How does one work without a bail? I am confused. ]]></description>

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			<link>http://fiberglassflyrodders.yuku.com/reply/71485/t/Bail-not-necessary-.html#reply-71485</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ For surf fishing here in the northeast, bail-less spinning reels are the standard. I&#39;ve been bail-less for probably 25 years. It&#39;s the only way to go.
The bails on even the best reels will trip in the middle of a cast every now and then. When that happens, an expensive surf plug is usually lost. Plus a broken
bail spring in the middle of a fishing trip means the end of the trip, unless you have a spare reel. Once you get used to fishing without a bail, it is much
more efficient than... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:01:58 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;ve seen it done by an expert and its certainly impressive.  However, as one who spends a significant portion of time fishing getting untangled or gear
untangled  I don&#39;t feel the need to learn a new way to do it.
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:24:19 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Just removed the bail. ...........Ray........ ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <div>
  Having looked at them but never fished with one I don&#39;t think it would work for me. Maybe it would work on a dedicated jig or spinner rod but for float
  fishing I don&#39;t think the tension would keep the line on the roller. I know at times when I tighten up the line before setting the hook it is on the
  bail.
  <br>
  I might have to try it on a reel dedicated to casting jigs a long ways for walleyes.
  <br>
  Did your friend modify it in any way or just remove the bail?... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:57:02 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ A few weeks ago I had a friend overhaul and remove the bail on an Alcedo I have.  I reluctantly didn&#39;t know what to expect.  But after some practice and
understanding of how it works I am very pleased.  I can now cast and retrieve faster than I could with a bail and do it without ever looking at the reel.  The
most positive part is without the bail I have illiminated the line tangle at the real because there is no bail to get a half wind that causes most line
tangles.  Thats my... ]]></description>

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