Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (mdwwhw) — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:08:06 GMT

I don't think you will regret it, I've a T130 and I'm still getting used to casting it, but it catches fish and casts fairly well on a FF 755. That being said, I get pretty good results from my "regular" sink tips with streamers as well. Enjoy, you can never have too many lines, just a spool shortage.

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (caddissfly) — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:28:34 GMT

Ordered a Teeny T-130...thanks to all advice provided in this thread and others!

C-fly

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (majicwrench) — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:16:41 GMT

As for those sink-tip line advertised as "non-hinging", they have been claiming that for years, and they still hinge, and every year they come out and advertise another line "designed not to hinge". They all
Keith

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (bulldog1935) — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:55:34 GMT

bassackwards wrote:
Ron, what's your technique for fishing a sinking line in fairly shallow water without hanging up?

down and across, rod tip up

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (rvreclus) — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:07:26 GMT

Corlay,
Instead of cutting up your lines to make one particular line with an intermediate sink tip, you might want to try a poly leader, designated intermediate sink rate. I believe they are $9-10. Then all you do is add a tippet(length and size of your choice), I believe they come in 10' lengths. They attach to your line just like a tapered leader and they act just like ferruled leaders, great turn over, all the while acting the same as an intermediate sink tip line. Respectfully...

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (caddissfly) — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:30:34 GMT

Bulldog,

I think you are probably right...there I go thinking again. I think I'm just going to get the T-130 and give it a shot. Bottom line is, you've got to try something and see if it works for you personally.

J.C.

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (bassackwards) — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:20:37 GMT

Ron, what's your technique for fishing a sinking line in fairly shallow water without hanging up?

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (bulldog1935) — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:05:34 GMT

you guys are over-doing the thinking about this.
I take them out and catch fish and have for years and years. Except for high-stick nymphing and wading the salt flats, I'm fishing with a Teeny BS100 or T130. Everywhere. All the time.
They are not sink tip lines, they are spliced shooting heads, but they are the straightest possible line from the rod tip to the fish's mouth.
If you are fishing by sight, well, they're not the best choice.
If you are fishing by...

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (corlay) — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:11:51 GMT

caddissfly wrote:
A 10' maximum sink tip does seem more appropriate in the "short game"...to me anywhose.

It seems that the thought on the 10' sink tips is the hinging issue when casting. Cortland's and Rio's sink tips are advertised that they are manufactured to eliminate the hinging issue...has anyone used one?

my thinking now is,
if I could replace the 6'...

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (caddissfly) — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:46:45 GMT

Corlay wrote........ "20' of sink seems like too much for me."

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That was my perspective as well in regards to the Teeny BS-100...and the T-130 is 24'. I am typically catching fish out to a range of 40'. If you count a 5' leader, then you essentially have 25' of sinking line out and 15' floating. Thats roughly a 65% sinking / 35% floating ratio (ain't I a genius!

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (flyfishing4goldentrout) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:45:04 GMT

Weather, and water conditions seem to create short periods when a good short (4ft for under 5wt) and 10ft for heavier lines, like 5-6-7wts seems to be ideal. I fish them alot here on the Kern in winter. For me the water flow is slow and river still wide in the places Im fishing near home. Depth is around 4-5 ft for the pocket water where the fish are holed up, the drifts and bars are often just a couple of inches deep this time of year, so I can work down right in the middle without...

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (corlay) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:17:04 GMT

bulldog1935 wrote:

I fish the line in riffle water

interesting...
Thanks, Ron!

PS all of those wet-wading pics make me so jealous!

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (bulldog1935) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:06:22 GMT

I fish the line in riffle water
I caught 70 bass with down and across wet fly swings in this water in about 5 hours - there were no fish in the holes that day - I tried - they were all in the riffles and shallow runs.

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (Arctic Grayling) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:32:04 GMT

Corlay-

I think that Cortland makes a floating line with a 10' intermediate tip, if they haven't discontinued it.

Here is a 7' intermediate tip and Type 2 sinking tips in 5' and 10':

http://www.flyfishingstillwaters.com/lines.asp

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (rvreclus) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:07:26 GMT

There are a variety of methods to use in splicing lines together. They vary in the way you will make the splice, from removal of the outer coating and intertwining the cores tying and finishing the splice, another method would be to use the braided hollow connections and attache the lines using a Chinese finger cuff type of splice tying off each end, lastly you could cut off the front tapers of a line and make loops for a multi-tip system. The first two would be the ones closest to seamless....

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (corlay) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:19:52 GMT

bulldog1935 wrote:
BS100 on a 4/5-wt rod with a 4' Teeny tapered leader and another 16" of tippet is my hands-down choice for swinging wet flies.

20' of sink seems like too much for me.
5' of sink on the "Mini" seems about the bare minimum
10' would probably be perfect.
But I'm new to all of this, so...

Another idea...

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (bulldog1935) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:08:00 GMT

BS100 on a 4/5-wt rod with a 4' Teeny tapered leader and another 16" of tippet is my hands-down choice for swinging wet flies.

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (rvreclus) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:40:20 GMT

My .02,
I will agree with one aspect of this discussion, an Intermediate line of appropiate wt will probably be best and cover the most situations easily.

For what it's worth, I've been experimenting with sink tip lines for 5-6-7wt rods. I have been building multi-tip lines from WF floating lines in the 6-7-8wt catagories. I've formed loops and have built tips out of various sinking lines, ranging from SA type I, II, III sink rates as well as T-8, LLC13 and T-14....

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (corlay) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:39:35 GMT

with all these accolades,
I'm starting to become very interested in the Teenys.

Looking at the manufacturer's website,
it looks like the "Mini" (5' sink tip) "Invisi" (3' sink tip) tip lines would be best for my wet-fly stream fishing.
Haven't seen these particular lines discussed much here.
Anyone with experience with them?
Do they cast as well as the T-130/T-200?

Thanks!

Re: More sink tip and intermediate questions

feeds@yuku.com (Bud) — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:29:03 GMT

In my experience....T-130 unbeatable for the application you describe in 5 or 4 wt.......T-200 6/7 wt...(I use it on a SB cane rod marked for HCH). Int. (Slime lines are awesome) if you want to stay just below the surface......Sink tips can work if you can cast them...but for the money I don't know why anyone would mess with them when the Teeny Lines cast and fish so well.