Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (majicwrench) — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:11:31 GMT

Cofisher,
I've got one of those, er, had one of those, well, sorta still do. I had stripped it and made it into a fly only, a bit fast for a 5wt, but crisp and fishable. Was up backpacking in the hills and lost one of the pieces. How do you find a brown stick in the woods?? Anyway, made another piece out of a scrap rod, put spigot ferrels in it and have not used it since. Do you need one for parts??

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (graewolf) — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:51:05 GMT

Howard, that's a real nice one. Good job my friend.

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (cofisher) — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:44:26 GMT

I just acquired a 6 1/2' 4 piece W&M Trailmaster fly/spin 5 wt. to carry around in my car.

The Trailmasters are a good bargain rod that casts nicely (medium slow) light in hand and you probably wouldn't cry if it broke or you left it sitting on the roof of your car. That's why they made so many of them, an inexpensive rod with a lifetime guarantee.

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (majicwrench) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:10:31 GMT

I have maybe a dozen pack rods, and the one that gets used constantly is a 7' 5pc Buccaneer. Spigot ferrules, 5 or 6 wt, cheap light. I did strip and re-do an 8wt 6pc Buccaneer, it has gone fishing a bunch this summer.
I have a 5(?) pc 6ft and a 5(?) pc 7ft Gladding South Bend, tip over butt over butt over butt......both rods are a bit too fast with a 6wt but fishable, neither as good of a fishing tool as the Berkley.

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (CreationBear) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:29:17 GMT

Thanks for adding the 856-5 and the Wulff to the list...I've heard great things about that particular Fenwick, but I don't think many of them are floating around. I'll look forward to trying the Wulff, too...seems as if it has great "fish karma" if nothing else.

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (mvinsel) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:03:12 GMT

Thanks MuddlerOH for the good rundown.
I used to to have an affection for multipiece trout rods when I lived in Cal and did most of my fishing from a backpack.

A couple I liked, not on yor list:

-Fenwick FF856-5 five piece Voyageur
-Phillipson 8' Deluxe three piece - not quite as crisp as the two piece model but still very nice for a metal ferruled rod.
-Conolon Lee Wulff 7' four piece - this one I enjoyed the best, fished very nicely in small waters...

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (Upstreeam) — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:07:20 GMT

CreationBear wrote:
Thanks for the info on the 756-4....to be honest, that's a more useful length for me, but I'll be curious if it's overkill for my little trout...some of those longer Fenwicks can be real hammers.

Yeah, when I pack in around here, it's usually a Lami, either 3 or 4 wt. (the 7'6" 4 wt. is the plan for the autumn wild clave). But the 756-4 isn't a hammer. On a stream...

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (caddis4) — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:27:12 GMT

Gotta go with the Fenwick guys - my FF75-4 is like "magic" with a DT6F Cortland Peach.

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (CreationBear) — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:37:22 GMT

Thanks for the details on the Fenwick, and both the SA and Marshall's Scott have been on my mind a long time...just a bit too much rod for my freestoners here in the Southern Appalachias, I think, although I'm sure either would rival the late, lamented Sage 389 LL as a "tailwater queen."

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (MuddlerOH) — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:51:59 GMT

I could be wrong on whether it was the newer or older Fenwick glass. The rod cases (plastic triangle) and bags (red or green nylon) all seemed to be more recent. It was not slow glass though. I liked the FF756-4 with a DT5F quite alot.

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (Marshall8) — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:40:01 GMT

I took a chance picking up Steve's System 6-8'1" 5pc 6wt just to cast it and its a very nice smooth rod. A little faster in character than my old Scott 8' 5pc but for a little longer cast it has better line speed and the loops are tighter. The System 6 deserves an owner that would peel off the long skinny reel seat/grip and put on your favorite for a lifetime of exceptional casting/fishing but the Scott could use that as well. Both rods need a little heavier reel to get...

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (graewolf) — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:02:58 GMT

Creation Bear,

My Phillipson Master is truely overkill on my little Brookie streams but I caught a 34 inch Northern Pike on it in northern Minnesota recently and man was that some fun! It is really a fine rod and I'll keep it for trips out to Yellowstone and up to Minnesota.

For my little streams around here (some so narrow you can step over them) I have my 4 wt, 3 pc Lamiglass from Gypsy for walk-in or park close-by streams and like I said, I have a little hoard of...

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (CreationBear) — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:12:58 GMT

Thanks for the info on the 756-4....to be honest, that's a more useful length for me, but I'll be curious if it's overkill for my little trout...some of those longer Fenwicks can be real hammers.

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (Upstreeam) — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:47:12 GMT

Jon,

I'm no Fenwick expert, but I thought that all the 3 digit Fenwicks (FFxxx) were the darker brown glass. True of mine; my FF756-4 (an "R") is dark, the FF70-4 ("H") is the lighter glass. Between the two, the FF70-4 is a bit slower, I'd say, but haven't cast either model in 2 pc.

Bob

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (MuddlerOH) — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:24:26 GMT

I no longer have the rod. I have had a couple. If I recall correctly, all were the later glass and a plastic triangle tube instead of the round metal.

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (CreationBear) — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:57:43 GMT

Steve--

What a useful breakdown... A question for you: what is the serial number on your FF756-4? Extrapolating from the fact that the FF70-4 is often called a lot slower than the two-piece, I'm thinking it's the later, dark brown glass?

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (MuddlerOH) — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:27:59 GMT

I have a multi-piece rod Jones. Buy cast fish sell. If rod intentionally comes in three or more pieces, I love it -- even when I don't end up liking it. Here are most of the Production Rods (excluding McFarland, Steffen, Andy Manchester and Dave Lewis) that I have tried. Only my opinion. If I think it is worth having for $ I put a * by it. Your mileage may vary.

Fenwick FF756-4* -- Very nice rod for $ (110-150) -- high end of blue collar, a little crisp in a good way
...

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (CreationBear) — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:53:45 GMT

I'll be interested in seeing the W&M at the South Mills if I can make it up, but what I'm really curious about is what you do with that Phillipson there in Carolina...y'all might have bigger fish than you let on out there.

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (graewolf) — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:33:39 GMT

I have to add my personal favorite multi piece rod: Wright & McGill Trailmaster. I hike and fish with a four piece old school beauty that's got a neat roll up canvas sock and fits in a 24 inch tube. I used to fish it with an old Eagle Claw reel but lately I've been matching it with a small Pridex.

Re: Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (flyfishing4goldentrout) — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:21:49 GMT

Hahaha well if you could take a few hundred thousand touriods a weekend during summer that would sure help. On Memorial day weekend and Labor day weekend its the worse, we usually have around 540,000 weekend touriod visitors on those two weekends. The rest of the summer its between 125,000 and 150,000 a weekend. During the week the carryover is ok, way down with the exception of the big holiday weekends. Winter its dead quite around here, even alot of residents head to Palm Springs and such....

Vintage Multi-piece rods

feeds@yuku.com (CreationBear) — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:25:36 GMT

All these "best of" and "wish lists" have got me thinking: what vintage, trout weight, multi-piece rods are worth owning? Certainly the San Francisco Scott 5-piece rods are nonpareil, as are the Russ Peak Zeniths we all drooled over lately, but do any others come to mind? For whatever reason, I suspect that not many will compare with modern offerings such as McFarland, Steffen, or various Japanese manufacturers, but I'd like to be wrong!